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The Trail of Blood by J.M. Carroll is highly recommended.
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The Trail of Blood by J.M. Carroll is highly recommended.
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BATTLE TALK ~ Battle Royale IV - JALTUS vs. s9s27s54
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Pilgrimagain
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what?
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EVERY cult leader has SOME truth. Luther was no exception. But Luther's gospel was NOT the gospel of God. He despised the warnings to the church throughout the bible; he disliked the book of Hebrews, James, and 2Peter. All of those books DENY his accursed gospel.
Here are some of the passages that Luther despised, and is it any wonder? Even today those that exalt Luther as a man of God deny or ignore these scriptures. This first chapter describes such false teachers as Luther:
(The internet just went down, so I couldn't post verses from Heb 3 and Rev 2 and 3)
Here are some of the passages that Luther despised, and is it any wonder? Even today those that exalt Luther as a man of God deny or ignore these scriptures. This first chapter describes such false teachers as Luther:
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb *** speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
("Sin vigorously...commit adultery 100 times a day and as many murders"
"...an epistle of straw".
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19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can (dead) faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
(The internet just went down, so I couldn't post verses from Heb 3 and Rev 2 and 3)
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man the fix is in eh?
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Talk about conspiracy theories... Like Pilgrimagain said, facing both excommunication and death, and sticking to his conscience even when his contemporaries disagreed with him (e.g. Zwingli), is pretty convincing evidence that he wasn't into it for the popularity.
The emotional appeal approach is very flashy, good for drama and entertainment, but it doesn't convince those who prefer substance. Do you have proof that he actually took part in the killing of any Jew (or anyone, for that matter) during his time, or are you just venting some pent-up frustration?
I know Luther spoke against icons, but when people started going to extremes by wrecking sanctuaries, I think he saw how his words were taken and changed his tone, even rebuking them for doing it (which is what any responsible shepherd would do). In the same vein, I seriously doubt he took pleasure in the death of anyone.
But, if you can provide some historical record to the contrary, I'll be happy to consider your stance above the basic rant.
Blessings,
jth
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Pilgrimagain
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It looks like this new bloke, Solly, might be able to hold up his end though.
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Pilgrimagain
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Well he did.
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