ARGH!!! Calvinism makes me furious!!!
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Freak
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I noticed Knight completely avoided a question I asked earlier:
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Knight: did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Knight: did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
This is why I was never a proponent of unbanning Freak. What kind of damage does Freak do to the cause of Christ with such... such... such... I cannot describe it. It goes beyond stupidity.
Hey, I've got an idea! Freak, start calling yourself a communist satanist!
Hey, I've got an idea! Freak, start calling yourself a communist satanist!
Freak
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Thus God repaid Abimelech for the crime he committed against his father in killing his seventy brothers; and God also made all the wickedness of the people of Shechem fall back on their heads, and on them came the curse of Jotham son of Jerubbaal.Knight said:
God put to death those whom deserved divine judgement.
Z: You proof texted Rev. 4 to show that God creates everything...
Does God create the car you drive? Does He make McDonald hamburgers? Just because He made the earth does not mean He is the primary cause behind computers. You extrapolate from the specific to the general (logical fallacy).
I affirm the sufficiency and authority of Scripture for all doctrine and practice, for this life and the next. Yet, it is not exhaustive in scope, though truthful.
I object to your equating your subjective, flawed proof texting with Scripture. Rejecting your specious conclusions is not tantamount to rejecting the authority or infallibility of Scripture (there are also textual and interpretation issues).
Does God create the car you drive? Does He make McDonald hamburgers? Just because He made the earth does not mean He is the primary cause behind computers. You extrapolate from the specific to the general (logical fallacy).
I affirm the sufficiency and authority of Scripture for all doctrine and practice, for this life and the next. Yet, it is not exhaustive in scope, though truthful.
I object to your equating your subjective, flawed proof texting with Scripture. Rejecting your specious conclusions is not tantamount to rejecting the authority or infallibility of Scripture (there are also textual and interpretation issues).
Freak
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"And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem."
Freak... so... you are trying to prove God is a murderer? 
I must admit this latest revelation of Freaks is nothing less than astonishing. :nono:Yorzhik said:
Freak
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Knight, I merely believe that God kills. He authorizes governments to kill and He has no problem killing people Himself.
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Knight: did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
Knight YOU ompletely avoided a question I asked earlier:Knight said:
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Knight: did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
Freak
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God bless you.
Perhaps you can assist Knight in answering this question...
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
Come on, that's uncalled for.Yorzhik said:
Perhaps you can assist Knight in answering this question...
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
Oh my goodness Jay... stop while you are ahead! (I realize it's a bit late for that).Freak said:
You are embarrassing yourself!!! I suggest you rethink what you are saying.
Freak
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Since you think we need to move on, perhaps you can answer this simple question...Knight said:
For example, in Judges 9, He used an evil spirit for His divine purposes:
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Knight: did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
Before we "move on" will you admit that God is NOT a murderer and in fact you completely misinterpreted the verse about Abimelech?Freak said:
It was Abimelech who murdered the 70 NOT God. Will you admit you were completely wrong to slander God in that way?
Freak
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Knight said:
God kills as seen in Scripture...
"And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem."
Thus God repaid Abimelech for the crime he committed against his father in killing his seventy brothers; and God also made all the wickedness of the people of Shechem fall back on their heads, and on them came the curse of Jotham son of Jerubbaal.
God put to death those whom deserved divine judgement.
Does God murder in the sense that He kills-Yes! Is He a murderer in the sense you are thinking? Of course not.
God judged, cursed, and killed the people of Shecham...
So,
"Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech.
God used evil, in this case an evil spirit that knows nothing but evil for His purposes.
Knight: did God use something evil for His purposes? Yes or no?
So.. you aren't gonna admit you were wrong are you?
:think: What to do... what to do.... is it really a good idea for me let a person who claims to be a Christian stay on TOL when they accuse God of being a murderer????
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Freak
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Knight, feel free to ban me. This is your site and I respect that. No hard feelings.Knight said:
I stand by this:
"And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem."
God kills. No, He is not a murderer in the sense you define murder. But He does kills people!