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marke

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John was one of the TWELVE apostles that will sit on TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of ISRAEL. John was not writing to the church which is His body... the body of Christ.

I'm not sure what Diotrephes has to do with anything, but he was an unbeliever that opposed John and the twelve.

3John 1:9-10 (AKJV/PCE)​
(1:9) I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. (1:10) Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth [them] out of the church.​

John spoke to the elect NATION, the nation of Israel.

The term "Christians" is a bit vague and does not accurately describe the divisions that God put in His plans. The "Christian church" for today is the BODY OF CHRIST and not the nation of Israel.

Yours is the confusion that comes when you do not rightly divide the word of truth.

Gal 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)​
(2:9) And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

That is a division that God created.
I just do not see the idea that there is a separate church of born-again Jews that is distinct from the group of non-born-again Christians.
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
I don't totally follow you. I believe Christians are born of the Spirit, but not from birth.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Is being born again, and being born by the Word, and being born of the Spirit, all the same thing?

Is being born of God the same as being born again, and being born by the Word, and being born of the Spirit?
 

Right Divider

Body part
Do Christians today have a new Spirit after salvation which is the Spirit of Jesus Christ in them?
Yes... but there are still MANY differences between ISRAEL and the BODY OF CHRIST.

It's too bad that you never read (or at least pay any attention) to anything that I post.
 

marke

Well-known member
Yes... but there are still MANY differences between ISRAEL and the BODY OF CHRIST.

It's too bad that you never read (or at least pay any attention) to anything that I post.
I'm sorry that I don't have the time to delve into the many sources given to me in my debates, but that is what I have to deal with on my end.
 

Right Divider

Body part
I'm sorry that I don't have the time to delve into the many sources given to me in my debates, but that is what I have to deal with on my end.
If you are unable to have a discussion or debate in this DISCUSSION and DEBATE forum, perhaps you're in the wrong place.
 
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