Re: Has Bob Enyart admitted that atheists do not exist?
Re: Has Bob Enyart admitted that atheists do not exist?
I'm taking the unusual measure of reposting the transcript from Bob Enyart Live. It may have gotten buried under a flurry of posts, which might account for why Bob Enyart's defenders have not posted their comments. I debated whether or not to start a new thread, thinking maybe the deck had gotten cold. But I'll try this and see.
Has Bob Enyart admitted that atheists do not exist?
Below is a partial transcript of Bob Enyart's dialogue with a caller named Tom from the Thursday, July 3rd, 2003 broadcast of Bob Enyart Live (Listen via MP3 here:
Bob Enyart Live, Thu. 7-3-03 #131)
Tom: When I read [Zakath's] writings, what comes across to me is that his hatred for God is greater than his honesty, ...
Bob Enyart: Objectivity ...
Tom: Objectivity; His hatred for God overshadows everything.
Bob Enyart: I think you hit the nail on the head.
Tom: And my question is: Is it possible for a man to be a
true atheist? Because I read in Paul when he says, you know "for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness because that which is known about God is evident within them." And so, if puts the evidence
in us, is it really possible for these people to be honest atheists or do they just have a hatred for God?
Bob Enyart: Well, Paul says in that same chapter, Romans 1, he says, although they knew God, they turned in their hearts and they basically began to despise God.
Tom: And Zakath knew God, because he was a minister.
Bob Enyart: Yeah, well, hey there are plenty of ministers who, you know, like the pharisees in the Bible, who hate God. But, Tom, when Paul said although they knew God, that tells us that we're made knowing there's a God. The human race, when we're born, the Bible says God put eternity in our hearts, and we know we're going to be around forever, we know that. But then we can start to deny it, and we could really try hard to deny it, but an atheist does not live by his claimed belief system. He doesn't believe as though there is no such thing as truth. He doesn't live as if there is no such thing as truth, or no such thing as right and wrong. He doesn't live that way. So his very life denies his supposed belief system. But this is the way I'll answer that directly: Is Zakath really an atheist? Is any "Zakath" in the world, any atheist, are they really atheists?
Tom: Is it possible for them to be
truly an atheist?
Bob Enyart: This is my answer: When they die, and go to judgment day, not a one of them will be surprised when he sees God. Not a one is going to say, "You know, I really didn't think you were real." Not a one. So I, you know, although they give a very consistent intellectual argument that there's no God, but they don't live that way ...
Tom: You know I really never thought of that but, you're right, they're living a lie. ... It comes down to their hatred for God. They have a hatred for God.
Bob Enyart: Yeah.
[snipped discussion about atheist reality as illusion, etc.]
Bob Enyart: Anything else, Tom?
Tom: No, that's it, Bob. I just wanted to run that by you that I just didn't think it was possible that anybody could really be a true atheist.
Bob Enyart: So the question is not "Does God exist?", it's "Does Atheism exist?"
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My question is, if Bob recognizes this fact, and effectively acknowledges to another Christian that Zakath is lying about his atheism, why does Bob continue as an "enabler," allowing Zakath to assert his atheism without challenge? Bob is no slouch when it comes to exposing the lies of socialism, cultic religions, the pro-life agenda, homosexuality, and sexual immorality. From what I've read and heard of Mr. Enyart, he confronts these lies head-on and rarely misses a beat whenever a disputant asserts them. Why does he shift his tack with the so-called atheists, and affirm their false claim, rather than confronting the myth of atheism?
Tom, If you're following this thread, good job!
Jim