Anyone Who Thinks Another Person Deserves To Be Raped Is A Knob

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lifeisgood

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Nice diversion, but I am smart enough to post the whole context.

Are you actually trying to deny that God punished David with the loss of his child even though scripture says it outright?

You don't seem to care what scripture says, since you will deny scripture for anything else, instead of admitting you are wrong.

You would rather make God mistaken, instead of yourself.

Sad to see.

NO, Angel4Truth, if you had read everything for comprehension you would have known that the conclusion is not --- David was not punished.

Even David, in spite of the outcome (God taking His child) accepted that God was merciful and just by taking away David's child.

First and foremost, what God did, and praise Him for His decision, was to PROTECT THE CHILD.

Now, if you want to understand that or not, God has given you the free will to agree with Him or disagree with Him.

God, from where I am standing, IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

Maybe you should check your comprehension on this one.
 

lifeisgood

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Which has nothing at all to do with what you said, you denied that God punished David with the loss of his child, even though the bible says it outright.

It. Says. It. - Read it.

2 Samuel 12:14 However, because by this deed you have given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also who is born to you shall surely die.” 15 Then Nathan departed to his house. And the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became ill.

I did not say that God did not punish David. That is you talking.

I said that I did not believe that God punished David, per se.
I said God PROTECTED THE CHILD.

I was looking at God's love and mercy and grace and justice and care, etc. etc. etc., and so did David.

If you want to understand that or not that is in your ballpark.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
I did not say that God did not punish David. That is you talking.

I said that I did not believe that God punished David, per se.
I said God PROTECTED THE CHILD.

I was looking at God's love and mercy and grace and justice and care, etc. etc. etc., and so did David.

If you want to understand that or not that is in your ballpark.


:freak:

was God protecting the first born of Egypt when He smote them??
 

lifeisgood

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Youre a liberal right? Nothing ever means what it says plain as day. :rolleyes:

per se
ˌpər ˈsā/
adverb
adverb: per se; adverb: perse

by or in itself or themselves; intrinsically.

Yes - in and by itself, God struck down Davids child because of Davids sexual sin, which gave cause for men to blaspheme God. Just like it says. Plain. As. Day. It even added that God would not take Davids life, for it, directly pointing to it being punishment, no way to misunderstand, context is clear.

Its written as plain as it can get. You cant just admit you were wrong, can you.

Better for you to add what isnt there and remove what is plain as day, rather than be wrong. Sad.

I said I did not believe God punished David, per se.
I said God PROTECTED THE CHILD.

Doing a study of 2 Samuel 12:14-31 you will see that David was in accordance with God's judgment.

Now, you can take my understanding any way you want. I will not be mad or angry at you.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Romans 8.

You have a problem with God's decisions, take it up with Him.

Romans 8King James Version (KJV)

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
King James Version (KJV)




which part did you have in mind?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
If you don't know the different terminologies between OT and NT, I can't help you there. You will need to study that for yourself.

well, apparently you understand it better than me

you're not willing to share that understanding?
 

glorydaz

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No, just exhausted trying to explain that a woman does not deserve to be raped and you want me to jump to another subject?


You're the one who has jumped all over the Bible and have never once succeeded in making it say what you claim it does. Now that you're pinned down, you want to call a halt.


You're just like that Jodi Foster character playing the slut in the bar....promising something you refuse to deliver. Then blaming others for what YOU did. Yes, I'm sure you are "exhausted". :chew:
 
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