Of course.
But why death and spilling of blood? That's just St. Paul's explanation of why Jesus had to die. Understand where I'm coming from.
There are no virgins for those who slaughter innocents.
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Of course.
But why death and spilling of blood? That's just St. Paul's explanation of why Jesus had to die. Understand where I'm coming from.
There are no virgins for those who slaughter innocents.
Blood is life. Life is precious. We are all sinners and cannot stand in the presence of a righteous God. Therefore we have that aspect of God as our mediator and advocate.
God showing us how to be.
There is one God.
JosephR
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God is Merciful. Eternally and exceptionally merciful. Why don't you get it? God needs only a repenting heart and He himself could purify it. The wages of sin is death but repentance removes the wages and God promises to turn them all to good.
“O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great as its.”
"(Except) for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them God will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. He who repents and does righteousness does indeed turn to Allah with [accepted] repentance (25:70-71)
...and yet the earth is bathed in the blood of the innocent who are slaughtered in the name of Allah....
Islam is at its Dark Ages now.
Islam is at its Dark Ages now.
Agreed.
I pray for the more enlightened among you to begin to move toward the light.
Jedidiah
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Repentance, I have a question.
What is your interpretation of Surat 'Āli `Imrān 54 ? A typical English translation goes as follows:
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."
I'm curious if this rendering accurately communicates the meaning of the underlying Arabic word for "plan/planner," and in general what you think this verse of the Koran means ?
What is your interpretation of Surat 'Āli `Imrān 54 ? A typical English translation goes as follows:
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."
I'm curious if this rendering accurately communicates the meaning of the underlying Arabic word for "plan/planner," and in general what you think this verse of the Koran means ?
There aren't going to be any virgins for any men.
There are. Virgins of heavenly origin.
We would have flesh and spirit. The flesh would taste the materialistic reward. The spirit the spiritual rewards. The latter outweighs the former.
We are humans and not angels.
What's your proof/evidence of this, if you are indeed truthful?
Word based mystic
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so these virgins. that is the summary of their lives. To service and serve one who has attained the reward of virgins?
1 drop of experiencing Gods presence, Joy, love and the fleshly activity of sex would be of a tiny sand molecule compared to the endless sea of Gods interaction with joy and loving of man.
1 drop of experiencing Gods presence, Joy, love and the fleshly activity of sex would be of a tiny sand molecule compared to the endless sea of Gods interaction with joy and loving of man.
Aimiel
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Many proofs, though not specific to this understanding, merely referencing what I've read and what I've experienced. God has need of nothing. He is complete. Men are incomplete, since their female parts were removed. Females are incomplete, since they don't have male parts. When we get to Heaven we will have glorified bodies that don't need clothing. I don't believe sex organs have any place in Heaven.
Your beliefs but I don't know - it has no evidence for in the abrahamaic traditions.
These won't be human and they won't have experienced any other life. They are virgins of an heavenly nature purely as a reward.
True that. That's why God's presence and the opportunity to experience the face of God is the crown, the biggest success for our souls and the biggest reward in paradise. Once we experience that we would no longer have need or want of anything else except as God wills. After all we would not get fed up of anything in Paradise.
Aimiel
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Adam was made in the image and likeness of God.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him
And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; and the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
God is not incomplete as males and females are. He is just like Adam was at creation: whole. When we are given glorified bodies we will be whole. We will not be male or female, but we will be like God.
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
IMJerusha
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As a WHAT? Are you planning on having sex in heaven?
Acts 20:28 KJV
(28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Colossians 1:14 KJV
(14) In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Ephesians 1:7 KJV
(7) In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Yes Adam was created in the image of the Most Merciful. But tell me does God have a humanlike body? Is God physical? Forget being male or female is God some type of no-sex human? God forbid! God is above all that. What this means is that our souls are created in the image of the Most Merciful, for it comes from one soul which is from the spirit of God.
O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women. And fear Allah , through whom you ask one another, and the wombs. Indeed Allah is ever, over you, an Observer.
Surah Nisa (Women) Verse 1
And we would never be like God or like angels. If our destination was that they why does God have angels who does just that? Why didn't He create us in the form of angels? We are different to angels.