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  1. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Did Jesus and the apostles teach faith and works? Matthew 23 Then spoke Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not you after their works: for they say...
  2. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    I did not intend this thread to be about Mid Acts, but I'm happy that know I think I understand it, or maybe not. I would like to conclude this thread with some main overview points from the two positions we are contrasting, which I don't want to debate but only want for clarity. Mid Acts vs...
  3. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    If Christ lives in us we will not live in sin, that does not mean that we will never ever sin again, I'm sure we all agree on that. Roman 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3...
  4. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    A double minded man is one who says I cannot decide if something is true or not true. I said the commandment not to murder is both a law of God and the right thing to do. That's not being double minded. It's a statement that both statements are true, not that one is true and the other is not...
  5. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    This what James actually said James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 See thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and...
  6. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    I do not murder because the law says so. I do not murder because it's not the right thing to do. The law, and the right thing, are the same thing. The Spirit also says the same thing. --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    The question is not "should we put ourselves under the law", the question is, is there any of the ten commandments that Christians should not practice as Christians today? The Answer is we should be practicing them. Paul's list of what will keep you from receiving eternal life are contain in...
  8. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    The Ten Commandments I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall not have strange gods before Me. Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day. Honor thy father and mother. Thou shall not kill. Thou shall not commit adultery. Thou shall not steal. Thou...
  9. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    1 Corinthians 6:9–10 9 Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners...
  10. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    I said in fact you are wrong, the commandments are for us as well as Israel and for the whole world according to Paul who said the law of God is written on every ones heart, although you might be an exception. Yes, I follow the commandments, but not perfectly. Clearly you don't follow any of...
  11. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Agreed, I said the same thing. We are the body of Christ--1 Corinthians 12:27--with various gifts and ministries. Agreed, we are saved through faith in Christ and not by works of the Mosaic law. Disagree, John the Baptist's baptism in water and in public view was not the Jewish ceremonial...
  12. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Saying "The earth is NOT flat Dave" implies that I believe in flat earth. As to, "You are blindly contrarian", I am responding very directly to everything you are saying with verses and commentary that shows your position and arguments are wrong. If I avoid something you have said, which is...
  13. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts...8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to...
  14. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    These verses deal with the duties of the Priesthood. Though not what New Testament baptism represents it has certain similarities. Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3...
  15. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    The Great Commission Matthew 28:19 Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing [in water] them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of...
  16. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    I never said I believed in flat earth.
  17. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    I want to answers these questions in order one at a time: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Does the Gentiles "have not the law" mean the Mosaic law? If it does then this is how we are to understand Romans 2:14-16 "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law [of Moses], do by nature the things contained in the law [of Moses], these, having not the law [written on stone tablets], are...
  19. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    Paul said the Gentiles have the law written on their heart and will be judged by it. Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their...
  20. DFT_Dave

    Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

    What Jesus taught John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in...
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