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Gentlemen, this website is not yours' to destroy by driving people away with denigrating insults. If you three don't agree to disagree with others that want to be here, with respect, I fear this website will die. You can call me out, just not through calling me (or anyone else) a fool, a jerk...

Terms of service: You agree to "not" use the Service to submit...any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, likely to offend. Who do you think you are calling me, or anyone here, a fool, a jerk, and a liar? The three of you are driving people away from this website because it's not...

Having the answer, which you know will also be my answer, means you can go a head and explain the implications. You don't need me to say what is already obvious what my answer is. I think you like giving orders, when you can just make your argument. You don't need my submission before you make...

Thank you Judge Rightly That was a lot of work. And thank you Right (Yoda) Divider, and last but not least, Clete. Win, loose, or draw I miss debating y'all. We've been here for a long while. There are now many facebook wannabe"s that, in my humble opinion--and you all know how humble I can be...

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No, I think sinning is "Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envy, murders, drunkenness, reviling, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past...

Jesus is referring to what he says he is referring to. Mid Acts says he is not talking to the body of Christ, but Jesus in this passage does not say this is not for the body of Christ. --Dave

None of these verses tell us that we are now free to sin all we want without fear of losing our salvation--which is what impunity means. Shall we continue in sin? God forbid? --Paul Freedom from sin is not freedom to sin. Freedom from sin means we don't have to keep on sinning. --Dave

You knew what my answer would be, so that means you already had it. Your mistake was you said your question was not rhetorical when it actually was. Following the Law is not a work of the flesh Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication...

The ones Jesus told us to keep. John 14 15 If you love me, keep my commandments 23 If a man love me, he will keep my words: 24 He that loveth me not keeps not my sayings --Dave

We can all see the difference between Mid Acts and the other side. I'm going to take a few days to look over all the posts and post my final summary. Thank you all for posting and viewing. --Dave

Jesus was being consistent with Mosaic Law, but this verse tells us nothing about what Jesus was teaching, but these verses do: Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and...

We are no longer under a tutor does not mean we can freely sin all we want, it means we don't have to keep on sinning. But for those of you who think you can sin with impunity, you better also believe you can never lose your salvation. --Dave

A Rhetorical Question: A question asked for effect, not an answer, that is so obvious that it need not be answered. Saying, "It's flatly obvious to the point of my not really needing even ask it. Just tell me the answer you already know is correct" is a rhetorical question. Don't worry, it's a...

I made a few adjustments in order to compare the other view 1. Pre-Ascension is the same thing as earthly, just sounds better when comparing it with Post-Ascension 2. Just Paul in the Post-Ascension contradicts that you also include the Apostles and not just Paul, so I added them. 3. I think...

I don't want this thread to be about the old nature vs new, etc. This thread is about Mid Acts, although I did not intend it originally. The Mid Acts belief is that Jesus, Peter, and the disciples preached faith plus works and they preached only to the Jews; and that only Paul preached faith...

Jesus, Peter, Paul, and all the apostles taught that Temple sacrifices, that were meant to atone for sins, were no longer necessary. They all taught everyone must repent of sin, be baptized in water, and follow the teaching of Christ. They all taught the same thing. Acts 2:37 Now when they...

Old nature vs New nature Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things...

Clete's question was rhetorical, of coarse Adam sinned, that's indisputable. I quoted Paul and agreed with him. Blaspheme is the act of insulting or showing contempt. It's about not having to have to sin, our new nature is not like our old nature. --Dave

To commit a sin is not the same as to live in sin which means to keep on sinning. We can all sin but that does not mean we sin all day long. Romans 6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer...