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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    What speaks to one's character isn't argumentation, it's the intentional, systematic and consistent act of ignoring arguments, refusing to respond to them and, most importantly, refusing to allow very simple and clearly sound reasoning to persuade one's mind. Such a person is, by definition...
  2. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Because if VERY specific predictions that the Law of Gravity implies that all have been proven true. Predictions not just about how things happen here on the surface of the Earth but also the Moon, the Plants and their moons, asteroids, comets, you name it, they all follow Newton's Law of...
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Oh here we go again with more fake YouTube lie videos. :bang: David, I think the real core of the problem here is that you have no discernment. You're the most naive person I've ever interacted with.
  4. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Mocking you has nothing to do with proving your wrong. You have been proven wrong and yet refuse to allow the proof to persuade your mind. Therefore you are mocked and rightly so. And neither Newton nor Einstein based their theories on thought experiments! Sure, they used thought experiments in...
  5. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Actually, if by "his ideas" you mean "Relativity", no, they really didn't. Real life experiments led to the wide spread acceptance of his ideas, and for good reason, but to say that Einstein has been PROVEN right is something of an overstatement, if not an outright myth. That, of course, is a...
  6. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So totally right and well said!
  7. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, I personally know people who have captured photos of the ISS with their own cameras. There are websites dedicated to teaching people how to do it. There are no balloons! The above image is from http://soggyastronomer.com/how-to-photograph-the-international-space-station/
  8. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, I am beyond frustrated with this entire discussion. To think that what you've done in this thread qualifies as "digging deep" absolutely boggles my mind. You can't even read my posts and detect the difference between "almost perfectly parallel" and simply "parallel" and want to call me an...
  9. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I never said that they were parallel. MORON! What I did do was prove you're stupid. Good bye David. I'm not participating in this idiotic waste of time any longer. Go be stupid and make the whole Christian world look like idiots while you're at it. :wave2:
  10. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are truly stupid. The photo was taken by a camera. One camera from one location. Like I said, whenever its convenient for you, you ignore perspective. It's because you're a mix of liar and idiot. The rays you are seeing in the photo look like they are shooting down but the angle is much...
  11. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Nope, they're stupid, lying pieces of evil deception that you are actively participating in and lending the Christian name too. FOOL!
  12. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    And yet you ignore perspective whenever it is convenient for you...
  13. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    "no matter where the Earth is in the frame" That is the key point. Notice also that the edges of solar cell array are nice and straight all the way to the edges of the images. There's no way to make the horizon curve without making the edges of those solar arrays curve as well. Unless you...
  14. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Wow. I spend I don't know how many months refusing to watch any of your stupid videos and then the one time I decide to hit the play button, the reason for my video boycott is reaffirmed and totally justified. You cannot possibly believe that the video is shot all with the same camera! One...
  15. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No David, it doesn't. It's close but not quite. In fact, it is very close. Close in the same sense the surface of water is level. It's actually very slightly curved but so slightly that for practical purposes, it's fine to discuss it in terms of being flat and level. But close isn't exact. In...
  16. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The illustrations you present are, of course, wildly exaggerated but it is true that, assuming no hills or other obstruction, the horizon line is always slightly below an observers line of sight. The Earth is gigantic in comparison to us and so the angle in well below the threshold of what our...
  17. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I wonder whether he'll ever notice that not only has there been multiple arguments that prove that a flat Earth is rationally impossible but there have been NONE that falsify the idea that the Earth is a globe. I wonder whether he accepts flat vs globe as being the only two rationally viable...
  18. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay. I thought you were referring to the math that we've done on the thread, which, whether you acknowledge it or not, is absolutely a kill shot in regards to a flat Earth. Either the Earth is not flat or math doesn't work. Clete
  19. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is just so maddeningly stupid! First of all, the math that I presented to you was accompanied by images that we took with our own cameras within seconds of each other that showed the angle of the sun above the horizon at our respective locations. In other words, it wasn't just math that we...
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