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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You should always respond to posts in the order in which they were posted but whatever floats your boat. If you're thinking that the diagram seems backward, it's because you're thinking that g is the apparent size rather than the actual size. The apparent size all about the angle α. Basically...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, it doesn't make sense. Perspective is perspective, David. It makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE whether the distance is over land or over the sea or into the sky or down a well. Distance is distance and that is the only factor when discussing perspective. An object will appear twice as large if...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Yes it does, David Your eye is one point of a triangle and the actual diameter of the object is the base of that triangle. The distance between your eye and the object is a line the bisects that triangle into two right triangles. A little application of the Pythagorean Theorem and you can...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You can't because you're stupid. I have no such problem. I can refute it and did exactly that. You mean like when train track go up a hill, getting apparently narrower and narrower as they go up and away from you? Here's a pic of some people standing at the top of a hill. Notice how the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Thank you for conceding the debate. Next topic.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Did that. You ignored every argument I made. Actually, it's utter stupidity. If it had anything at all to do with perspective, as I said in my last post, the Sun would simply get smaller and smaller as it passed into the distance. IT DOES NO SUCH THING. I will not watch your asinine videos...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't need a video. I've seen the sunset a thousand times with my own eyes. It goes over the horizon. It does not get ANY smaller as it sets because it is not getting any further away. If it were getting further away, it would never ever leave your view but simply shrink until it was a pin...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    When you say stupid or foolish things I am going to point it out on the thread where you said it. If you don't like it, stop saying stupid and foolish things. The thread is all still here for everyone one to read, David. The only one not dealing with the arguments is you. Responding is not...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not so. You do NOT know what you are talking about. Turn off the Discover Channel and TLC, neither of which is about science but rather selling an atheistic worldview and calling it science. Quantum Mechanics has pretty close to nothing at all to do with the macro universe. The idea that the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Bull! You're the one who brought it up. You're the one who repeatedly ignored multiple people begging you to stop with the idiotic YouTube videos, you're the one who refuses to be convince by the simplest of reasoning that even a third grader can understand while giving weight the most colossal...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Did that! You remain unconvinced. THAT'S what makes me angry. Because "we" are taught too. It's the same reason why most Christians have/had Christian parents and why most Buddhists grew up with Buddhist parents. We believe what we're taught to believe. You cannot possibly be serious. This...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you could make rational arguments in favor of a flat Earth then it would be different but you discredit yourself and everyone associated with Open Theism with this abject stupidity, which is why it makes me so angry! You have to drop this nonsense!
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Train tracks disappear over the horizon too, David.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Then why make it? I mean it's literally just abject stupidity! There is no way I would associate myself with something like that. I'd be embarrassed! What's to explain? The ship goes over the horizon! There would be no horizon on a flat earth. Case closed! The stupid morons refute...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are stupid David. I cannot even believe you're capable of thinking such idiotic things.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Abney Level Sight level Yes, it is stupid David! It isn't simply the antithesis because we do actually see hard horizon lines EVERY TIME WE GO OUTSIDE!!! And your video shows a hard horizon line with a ship the drops below that line from the bottom up which is exactly what is expected on a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I for one will not be watching any videos longer than a few seconds long and I also am not willing to discuss anomalous examples of ships appearing to do weird things on the horizon. Besides, aside from the already explained atmospheric distortions of light right at the edge of the horizon, the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    :up: It isn't so minuscule that it cannot be detected at all, David. It's too small to notice with the naked eye but we have instrumentation that can detect it. Flet-Earther seem to pull this stupid trick every time they discuss nearly anything. They're either stupid enough to think that if...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I agree with you that there is a danger of some videos getting dumped in with the bad. This is why it is, in my opinion, wiser for them to not make any such attempts to filter out conspiracies. YouTube is, however, as you are already aware, a privately owned website and no one has "the right"...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The number of miles is not the relevant number. It's the angle that matters. The angle is determine by the relative lengths of two sides of the right triangle. Get a protractor or download an app of some sort and measure 8° above the horizon and see for yourself how far it is. It's isn't...
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