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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As has been told to you countless times, it isn't about reflection it's about refraction. This entire argument is literal stupidity that you're repeating, the source of which almost certainly knew it was a lie when he wrote it Terrestrial Refraction...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I just deleted a whole response to this post. Suffice it to say that, no, it's not OK. Intellectual dishonesty is no more OK than any other sort of dishonesty. So, what's next? Which aspect of this debate do you want to repeat now? Go ahead, if that's what you find so enjoyable, pick...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Rush to a conclusion? We've been beating this dead horse for a year!
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    None of this makes any sense. Who ever said anything about more than one atmospheric condition existing in one place at the same time. That's stupid. You're rebutting an argument that has never been made. There certainly can be more than one atmospheric condition existing between two places...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No lunatic ever thinks he's a lunatic so... Besides, like I said, there isn't one single good argument for a flat Earth. Not only that, but it has been fundamentally falsified! Yet you remain unpersuaded and unpersuadable. Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Actually, on my way to work, after having posted that really fast post, it occurred to me that I may have been less than clear about what I meant. Light travels basically in a straight line through whatever it is that its traveling through. It refracts whenever it encounters something with a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This misses the point, Dave. The refractive index of water is the refractive index of water, whether you're in it or not. The transition from water to air and vice versa exaggerates the effect but that doesn't mean that light isn't refracted just because you're in the water with the fish. It is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Broken clocks Yeah, except there's no comparison between the two! It's equivalent to comparing the arguments for the existence of DNA (something you have no way of confirming first hand) and the existence of Sasquatch. People who try to convince others that Sasquatch exists are lunatics...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, Do some real research of your own. Go HERE and HERE and experiment with it. Plug in whatever numbers you want and see if you can make a flat Earth work. Hint: Don't make the mistake of only doing calculations from the surface of a flat earth. Do calculation as though the 90° angle is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The Pythagorean Theorem has only to do with right triangles. That is, triangles with a 90° angle in it. It basic means that since you know that one angle is 90° then all you need to know is either the length of two sides or the length of one side and the angle of one of the other two corners and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I appreciate that, Dave. I really do. I like you as well. That's the only reason I keep pressing this. Are you sure you understand it? Because the argument isn't for a globed Earth. It does not prove that the Earth is round, it proves that the Earth cannot be flat. Do you understand the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    What? You have to study the Pythagorean Theorem? You didn't go to high school? You can't pull up and read a Wikipedia article? What's their to study? I spelled it all out for you! If this angle is X and that side is Y then there's exactly one possible value for every other aspect of a right...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I knew you were going to say something stupid like this. You're hopeless. I doubt it. With no more intelligence and discernment than you've shown in this thread, I don't believe you for a minute. Do me a favor, unless and until you drop this flat earth stupidity, don't take my side on this...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, Here's another bit of Pythagorean Theorum that disproves a flat Earth... This time let's assume that the distances on Earth as reported by Google Earth are accurate but that the Earth is flat. To make the numbers easy, lets assume a two locations on the equator on an equinox. And...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Then the Earth cannot be flat.... The last few days I've been playing around with some math and thought I'd post some of it here to see if it might move some of the flat earthers maybe an inch or two back toward reality... Let's put some of the sunset images we've taken to good use and see...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It wasn't intended to be. Would you watch a video that claims to prove the Paul was not an apostle? If so, you'd be wasting your time just as I would be wasting my time watching a single second of another flat earth video. I haven't watched any for months nor will I. I've told you this many...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, Do you deny the validity of the Pythagorean Theorem?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Just go outside and take your own photos David! These Youtubers are liars.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There was a database error that kept happening the last couple of days whenever I'd post something. Then the site was down for maintenance and when it came back, the last couple of days worth of posts were gone. Oh well! Where were we?
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