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We could not have come from microbes any more than from a random assortment of carbon based chemicals but I wouldn't be willing to grant you the intellectual ground that starting things from microbes would afford you. However far we are from microbes wouldn't be 1 billionth as far the microbes...

On what do you base the belief that it is not possible? For the purposes of this discussion it would be going to Hell to pay your own sin debt. Do you believe that can happen once someone accepts the gospel as I've presented it? Paul was referring to those who preach that believers must...

Well, the discussion is predicated on the gospel as I have presented it, which I'm not necessarily attached at the hip with, by the way. I'd be happy to be shown where it needs correction. So what if a person accepted the gospel as I've presented it and then, after that, someone came along and...

None of this made any sense whatsoever. I can't even tell if you're a Catholic or not after reading that! Can you not simply answer the question? It isn't that complicated of a question! Does your religion teach that if someone merely and only believes the six points I've presented as the...

I absolutely have no idea what in the world you're talking about! What does Mid-Acts Dispensationalism have to do with anyone's ethics?

Atheists almost always have a conception of faith that is not biblical. Indeed, most Christians share the same unbiblical understanding of faith, which is pathetic and sad. Many think that faith is about believing something IN SPITE of either evidence to the contrary or simply a lack of...

Of course we can and do! What are you even talking about? Your entire objection seems to be a wild over reaction. We are not suggesting that is it "okay" to add to the gospel. It isn't okay, it's sin! But Christ died for all of our sin! You are effectively telling us that we are preaching that...

Do you suppose that someone who has trusted in the shed blood of Christ as payment for their sin and believed all the rest of the gospel as I have presented it, if he desires to obey what happens to be a false teaching, that such obedience is sufficient to overcome the shed blood of Christ? It...

The major issue there, so far, is the belief that water baptism gets you forgiven of sins. It does not. Leaving that aside, however, this does not really answer my question. What is the point of this confession? What effect does it have besides giving you membership as a Catholic? Does it have...

Yeah, right. Tell me again who isn't the problem? If this is the way you think, then on what basis do you call me a universalist? If this the way you think, then on what basis do you say that Catholics would be included under the gospel as I have presented it? I will continue to do so until...

For whatever reason, those all read as gobbledygook to me. They could mean something I agree with or they could mean something else.

I don't know much about Catholic doctrine so if it turns out to be the case that they, in fact, do not agree with my list, then I wonder on what basis musterion claims that my list would include Catholics?

Well, it obviously isn't a complete list of all the doctrines he holds too but I'm asking about what is needed to be saved, not what is needed to be a good Catholic.

The issue might not be what it doesn't say but what it does say, which I know nothing about. Is there anything in it that conflicts with the gospel proper as I have presented it? Do you, as a Catholic, affirm all of the following without caveat, qualification, addition or omission (i.e. in so...

How are those two sentences not contradictory? Of course I can. I suppose it depends on just what one means by assumption, which is why I've been adding the word "mere" to it. What I'm suggesting is that for many atheists their belief that there is no God isn't born out of mindless sort of...

All true but it wouldn't move an atheist an inch because they do not accept the existence of the God we claim that passage is about and even written by. They don't have to prove it unless affirmative evidence to the contrary is presented. It is NOT unreasonable to presume the non-existence of a...

They don't usually claim that they can prove it, at least the smart one's don't. That's why it's the THEORY of evolution. If they are making a faith based claim, yes. The claim that it's a mere assumption is a claim that a skilled debater would ask you to prove. He would point out that your...

They can and do! Your point here is actually well taken but you should have added the word "rightly"... "Law makers and public officials cannot RIGHTLY take public actions based on illogical and unsupported notions."

No goo lead to me or anyone else. The term "goo" implies a random collection of lifeless chemicals not intricately designed sperm cells, ovum and countless other things with millions of WILDLY complex biochemical machines working in concert to produce a new human life. Clete

I can understand the sentiment but sound reason is not a matter of opinion. The only thing anyone must prove is the veracity of their own arguments, which includes the veracity of the premises upon which those arguments are built. The only way it would their burden to prove the non-existence of...