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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I have no authority to "chop away". I wasn't threatening you, I was telling you that getting banned has nothing to do with me. Yes, I have. Twice. Liar. I did no such thing. No one has suggested your head on a chopping block, glorydaz! What in the world are you even talking about? You're the...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    I'm paying full attention. Haven't seen you post a syllable yet of anything worth reading. Clete
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Silliness is his default because his whole worldview is silliness. He'll provide nothing else because he has nothing else.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    It would seem, based on the premise used at that site, that any time Israel is mention IN THE THIRD PERSON, the passage is talking TOO Israel and teaching Jews how to live under their dispensation of law. It's like this guy can't figure out that Christianity and Judaism are related religions...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    This sort of talk is what lands people on the "chopping block". It's interesting to me how you think I'm the one being arrogant and condescending (or whatever) while all I'm doing is trying to get you to make an argument more substantive that quoting two verses of scripture and repeating your...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    When people transparently avoid answering direct questions that are so intuitively pertinent to the point of disagreement, they become my best argument. The idea that making a verbal confession of faith is any sort of legalism is simply rediculous and my questions make that plain to anyone who...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I did not read this. When you answer the question, we can continue. Not before.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Saying it doesn't make it so, glorydaz. This will be the last of these posts I respond to until you make an actual argument. Reading you repeat yourself is a boring waste of time.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    The question makes no sense, glorydaz! Romans 9 is specifically about God having cut off Israel and His having turned instead to the Gentiles but the whole entire book is a methodical presentation of the dispensation of Grace, the cutting off of Israel being only one important detail in the story.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Translation: I don't want to answer the question with a direct answer because the answer proves my whole thesis wrong and if I say it out loud it means I have to rethink everything I thought I knew about Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, who agreed to let the Twelve minister to Israel while he...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    @glorydaz , Did you say thank you to your husband when he gave you a gift? Do you ever say, "I love you." out loud to your spouse? Have you then somehow done something to deserve the gifts you've been given and relationship you have with him? Are these words you've spoken somehow payments...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    You are the one making the claim, not me. It isn't my burden to prove you wrong, it's your burden to prove your own case. Give me a reason to think that it's something other than nonsense and I will consider it. That is THE only reason I'm even here. What are you even talking about? The entire...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    You've given me no reason to consider it. It's plain lunatic insanity. Those chapters are the crescendo of the single greatest theological treatise in the history of mankind and one that follows one of the most eloquent teachings of the difference between law and grace that it is possible to pen...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    This was an emotional reaction. Prove me wrong. Show me the argument. Connect the dots for me glorydaz! You can't. Won't even try because you know for a fact that my difficulty in getting the purpose of this list into words has nothing at all to do with "adding to the gospel". You knew it was...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    The difficulty putting this issues involved into written words has nothing whatsoever to do with adding something to the gospel AND YOU KNOW IT! This sort of response belongs in the mouths of people like Nang and B57. You're better. Be better.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I honestly do not know how to even respond to someone who thinks that Romans 10:10 is legalism. It like you showed up here and claimed the sky is red. It's flatly false, is what it is. IF you believe. What do you do with that IF? Clete P.S. You need to start responding directly to the...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Surprisingly difficult point to get across. I keep finding myself using double negatives. It isn't a point I would have ever expected there to be controversy about. As a result, I've thought more about this specific point than I probably ever would have had I not started this conversation. That...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Interesting point. Prove it. Obviously? Where is the evidence that there were people in Ephesus who had refused or otherwise failed to confess with their mouths the Lord Jesus Christ? Are you trying to say that having words pass your lips is some sort of "work" where once done you've somehow...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    No one is suggesting that everyone is going to be saved. Quite the contrary. The entire point is that ONLY those who believe certain things will be saved. The question is what are those things. You seem convinced that my list is fine except that it is missing one point but then a few posts ago...
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