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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Dave, watch that video again. The guy's own videos disprove his thesis. Notice how the sound of the jet engines pass the camera before the shuttle does. Notice how the sound of the jet engines isn't even close to being loudest when the back end of the shuttle is facing the camera. Notice how...
  2. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Great post! I LOVE the Hydroplate Theory! I have multiple copies of Walt Brown's book. Truly outstanding!
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm trying my best not to get emotional. I'm not at all surprised to hear that you wouldn't rest your case on a single verse. That is exactly in keeping with what I've come to expect from you. This thread, however, is certainly not what I've come to expect at all. I think the real problem here...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    For the last time, what we see is not in contradiction to a spherical spinning Earth that orbits the Sun. On the contrary, the Earth is all of those things are else God has made the things in the sky move in just such a way that such a way as to be entirely and perfectly consistent with exactly...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Why would you prefer that? Why not prefer to believe that the bible simply says what it says and accept that your understanding of the nature of God's world is richer than what is revealed in that one sentence of the bible? The bible does not say that the Earth is a sphere nor does it say that...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Circles are not spheres but spheres are circular and from any vantage point a sphere looks like a circle. It is, therefore not one bit wrong or inaccurate to speak of "the circle of the Earth". This post of yours is an attack, not just on the intelligence of those who read it but on the whole...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This claim has also been repeatedly refuted. The horizon does, in fact, drop with elevation. You mean to say that what we see with our eyes isn't always giving us the whole picture? Surely not! Yes, they have. See! I can make naked claims with no argument too! The fact is that, if the Earth...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The spherical Earth conspiracy, if it exists, has been perpetuated for centuries longer than NASA or even the United States of America and dozens of countries have space programs right now, many of whom are enemies of each other in almost every respect. It would seem that the perpetuation of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The question that no one has made any real attempt to answer is WHY such a lie needed to be told. Where's the motive? Who gives a rip what shape the Earth is? If it's flat or round makes no difference to me. It doesn't affect my faith in God one iota either way. It doesn't change the way I live...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The whole airline industry is in on the conspiracy! Have you ever personally flone from Chile to Australia? How do you know that such a flight even exists, much less how long it takes? It's all lies. It's government lies spawned from Satan to decieve the world into believing that the Earth is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is a claim that has already be repeatedly refuted. Distance does not cause something to vanish from the bottom up. If it was distance, it would just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller. If that were the case, it would simply be a matter of our eyes limited resolution that created...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That isn't the point! The point is that if the Earth is flat, there are THOUSANDS of things in orbit that are not physically possible and that hundreds of thousands of people make their living in an industry that is entirely fraudulent, many tens of thousands of whom would have to be in on the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This thread is over 1700 posts long at this point. There have been mutilple examples of visual evidence of the curvature of the Earth. You're in denial and need to wake up. This is the single stupidest thing you've said in this entire thread, David. The ship has to be several miles away from...
  14. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No, it isn't David. Look, I don't tolerate this sort of thing from Calvinist and I see no reason why I should tolerate it from you either. I have made actual arguments, Dave. You have made claims. One claim after another, after another. What few actual arguments exist are almost entirely on...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    We have a whole hell of a lot more than NASA. You think that every satellite in orbit is owned and operated by the United States government? You know better. You knew better when you wrote this. Was this just you being the Devil's advocate, repeating some mindless argument you saw on a flat...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If the Earth is flat, the orbits of satellites are almost NEVER circular. In fact, they are usually very far away from circular and the satellites would perform impossible feats of speed. Click on the image below...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Lies that flat earthers tell...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Do you mean to suggest that you(flat earthers) believe that satelites (weather, GPS, communication, etc) are being flown in a circle? If so, what are they flying in? Airplane fly through the air, using pressure differencials above and below the wing to create sufficient lift to conteract the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    On most days, that mirage would not be present and all you'd see in your camera is the empty horizon. All arguments based on what you see in that video are thereby refuted.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yet you claim that it is visible evidence that convinces you (flat-earthers) that the Earth is stationary and that the whole universe revolves around it once a day. Long distance shooters do have to adjust for it, it's the explanation as to why that isn't correct. It isn't that the bullet...
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