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No, I don't take ANYTHING as authoritative, especially in the catholic sense of the word, aside from God Himself, His written word and sound reason. Is it good information? Yes, I suspect that it is. Is it authoritative? Not a chance. You should understand that it is something of a minor...

I agree totally, I'm just not convinced that an understanding of this incredibly important truth is required to get one saved in the first place. It seems it is more an issue of how to live the Christian life once your saved rather than actually getting saved. I'm still open to the idea that I'm...

That all those six points are, Idolater! It's nothing at all but a fleshing out of Romans 10:9-10. Any disagreement with a syllable of it is to either misunderstand or outright reject Romans 10:9-10. Stupidity. You declare it both superfluous and necessary. Please try to follow your own logic...

Stop talking about things you know nothing about. The single most effective, most evangelical, most stridently anti-sin / pure living, most people loving and most intellectually rational congregation of believers I've ever encountered happens to MAD! You are really off to a bad start here with...

I wish everyone understood that it is not necessary to respond to every point. All that is needed is for the response to be substantive, which yours is. I don't disagree with anything you've said here necessarily. It just seems to me that my having intentionally left out any mention of good...

Okay fine. I'm all ears... This is not an auspicious start.

Indeed! There are many wolfs in sheep's clothing. Some better disguised than others. I agree completely. I'd say that such a list is best shared among believers as a way of sharpening one's understanding of the gospel. Since its so narrowly focused, it doesn't feel like I great way to introduce...

No, that's an over statement. I mean, the difference between believers and non-believers is belief in the gospel, right? Idolator's evasiveness is tantamount to a denial of the gospel itself and so that's hardly a meaningful line to draw, right? I mean, that's already the line between believers...

:) The question that I was attempting to answer in the original thread is what must be minimally believed in order to be "begotten of the gospel" as you put it. Those six points was my answer to that question. Is there something more you think must be added to what I've included or anything...

You are the one who isn't answering questions. Non-sequitur. One could not accept Paul's gospel (no need for quotes - Paul is the one who calls it that, not us.) without repentance. There is no sin so egregious that Christ's blood cannot cover it. You are not only an idiot, you're a...

Based on this, which I do NOT take to be definitive for all Catholics, I can know, without question, that you are not a Christian except in the Catholic sense of the word. You certainly are not a Christian in the biblical sense, in the SAVED sense of that word. No true believer could even...

Well, if you ask me, that's what I'm doing. That's sort of the point of the exercise, right? I started that thread to provide an explicit answer to the question, "What is Paul's gospel?" That's an excellent question but what I've driving at presumes that a person has believed all six points of...

That isn't a point, it's you being an idiot. Answer the question. What does believing that the body of Christ started with Paul have to do with ethics? Why would my ethics be any different than yours? Why would my understanding of justice be any different? Why would my understand of love be any...

Excellent! That's a good starting point. Which four (or more) points do you say are superfluous? For ease of reference, I'll re-post the six points here and I'll included a very brief explanation as to why I believe they are necessary... God exists and is the Creator of all things and He is...

No it isn't.

We could not have come from microbes any more than from a random assortment of carbon based chemicals but I wouldn't be willing to grant you the intellectual ground that starting things from microbes would afford you. However far we are from microbes wouldn't be 1 billionth as far the microbes...

On what do you base the belief that it is not possible? For the purposes of this discussion it would be going to Hell to pay your own sin debt. Do you believe that can happen once someone accepts the gospel as I've presented it? Paul was referring to those who preach that believers must...

Well, the discussion is predicated on the gospel as I have presented it, which I'm not necessarily attached at the hip with, by the way. I'd be happy to be shown where it needs correction. So what if a person accepted the gospel as I've presented it and then, after that, someone came along and...

None of this made any sense whatsoever. I can't even tell if you're a Catholic or not after reading that! Can you not simply answer the question? It isn't that complicated of a question! Does your religion teach that if someone merely and only believes the six points I've presented as the...

I absolutely have no idea what in the world you're talking about! What does Mid-Acts Dispensationalism have to do with anyone's ethics?