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When people transparently avoid answering direct questions that are so intuitively pertinent to the point of disagreement, they become my best argument. The idea that making a verbal confession of faith is any sort of legalism is simply rediculous and my questions make that plain to anyone who...

I did not read this. When you answer the question, we can continue. Not before.

Saying it doesn't make it so, glorydaz. This will be the last of these posts I respond to until you make an actual argument. Reading you repeat yourself is a boring waste of time.

The question makes no sense, glorydaz! Romans 9 is specifically about God having cut off Israel and His having turned instead to the Gentiles but the whole entire book is a methodical presentation of the dispensation of Grace, the cutting off of Israel being only one important detail in the story.

Translation: I don't want to answer the question with a direct answer because the answer proves my whole thesis wrong and if I say it out loud it means I have to rethink everything I thought I knew about Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, who agreed to let the Twelve minister to Israel while he...

I love that plan! They should stick with it!

@glorydaz , Did you say thank you to your husband when he gave you a gift? Do you ever say, "I love you." out loud to your spouse? Have you then somehow done something to deserve the gifts you've been given and relationship you have with him? Are these words you've spoken somehow payments...

You are the one making the claim, not me. It isn't my burden to prove you wrong, it's your burden to prove your own case. Give me a reason to think that it's something other than nonsense and I will consider it. That is THE only reason I'm even here. What are you even talking about? The entire...

You've given me no reason to consider it. It's plain lunatic insanity. Those chapters are the crescendo of the single greatest theological treatise in the history of mankind and one that follows one of the most eloquent teachings of the difference between law and grace that it is possible to pen...

This was an emotional reaction. Prove me wrong. Show me the argument. Connect the dots for me glorydaz! You can't. Won't even try because you know for a fact that my difficulty in getting the purpose of this list into words has nothing at all to do with "adding to the gospel". You knew it was...

The difficulty putting this issues involved into written words has nothing whatsoever to do with adding something to the gospel AND YOU KNOW IT! This sort of response belongs in the mouths of people like Nang and B57. You're better. Be better.

I honestly do not know how to even respond to someone who thinks that Romans 10:10 is legalism. It like you showed up here and claimed the sky is red. It's flatly false, is what it is. IF you believe. What do you do with that IF? Clete P.S. You need to start responding directly to the...

Surprisingly difficult point to get across. I keep finding myself using double negatives. It isn't a point I would have ever expected there to be controversy about. As a result, I've thought more about this specific point than I probably ever would have had I not started this conversation. That...

Interesting point. Prove it. Obviously? Where is the evidence that there were people in Ephesus who had refused or otherwise failed to confess with their mouths the Lord Jesus Christ? Are you trying to say that having words pass your lips is some sort of "work" where once done you've somehow...

No one is suggesting that everyone is going to be saved. Quite the contrary. The entire point is that ONLY those who believe certain things will be saved. The question is what are those things. You seem convinced that my list is fine except that it is missing one point but then a few posts ago...

NO NO NO!!! I did NOT say that there was no explicit teaching that salvation is a free gift! There is no explicit teaching that if someone doesn't understand that particular truth then they are unsaved. Yes, yes, of course! I've already told you several times that you establish that salvation...

My entire point is that it is not possible to make an affirmative case from the biblical material that someone isn't saved if they fail to realize that their salvation is a free gift. That isn't sufficient to PROVE that it isn't necessary but, since the bible is where we go to get our doctrine...

No, I'm wanting the opposite of the all inclusive list. Is it possible for a person to not believe that God exists and be saved? No! Therefore, it is on the list. Is it possible for a person to be saved without admitting guilt of sin and acknowledging the need to be saved? No! Therefore, it is...

I'm not discussing people who don't get saved, only those who do, but... Even less? Now that would be directly pertinent to the question at hand! It is a bit confusing though! You're here telling me that I haven't included enough and now you're telling me that I could have included even less...

That isn't my argument and you know it. This is desperation on your part. If you can't respond without lying about what I've said, then lets just agree to disagree and let it go.