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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    Atheists almost always have a conception of faith that is not biblical. Indeed, most Christians share the same unbiblical understanding of faith, which is pathetic and sad. Many think that faith is about believing something IN SPITE of either evidence to the contrary or simply a lack of...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Of course we can and do! What are you even talking about? Your entire objection seems to be a wild over reaction. We are not suggesting that is it "okay" to add to the gospel. It isn't okay, it's sin! But Christ died for all of our sin! You are effectively telling us that we are preaching that...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Do you suppose that someone who has trusted in the shed blood of Christ as payment for their sin and believed all the rest of the gospel as I have presented it, if he desires to obey what happens to be a false teaching, that such obedience is sufficient to overcome the shed blood of Christ? It...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    The major issue there, so far, is the belief that water baptism gets you forgiven of sins. It does not. Leaving that aside, however, this does not really answer my question. What is the point of this confession? What effect does it have besides giving you membership as a Catholic? Does it have...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Yeah, right. Tell me again who isn't the problem? If this is the way you think, then on what basis do you call me a universalist? If this the way you think, then on what basis do you say that Catholics would be included under the gospel as I have presented it? I will continue to do so until...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    For whatever reason, those all read as gobbledygook to me. They could mean something I agree with or they could mean something else.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I don't know much about Catholic doctrine so if it turns out to be the case that they, in fact, do not agree with my list, then I wonder on what basis musterion claims that my list would include Catholics?
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Well, it obviously isn't a complete list of all the doctrines he holds too but I'm asking about what is needed to be saved, not what is needed to be a good Catholic.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    The issue might not be what it doesn't say but what it does say, which I know nothing about. Is there anything in it that conflicts with the gospel proper as I have presented it? Do you, as a Catholic, affirm all of the following without caveat, qualification, addition or omission (i.e. in so...
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    How are those two sentences not contradictory? Of course I can. I suppose it depends on just what one means by assumption, which is why I've been adding the word "mere" to it. What I'm suggesting is that for many atheists their belief that there is no God isn't born out of mindless sort of...
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    All true but it wouldn't move an atheist an inch because they do not accept the existence of the God we claim that passage is about and even written by. They don't have to prove it unless affirmative evidence to the contrary is presented. It is NOT unreasonable to presume the non-existence of a...
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    They don't usually claim that they can prove it, at least the smart one's don't. That's why it's the THEORY of evolution. If they are making a faith based claim, yes. The claim that it's a mere assumption is a claim that a skilled debater would ask you to prove. He would point out that your...
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    They can and do! Your point here is actually well taken but you should have added the word "rightly"... "Law makers and public officials cannot RIGHTLY take public actions based on illogical and unsupported notions."
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    No goo lead to me or anyone else. The term "goo" implies a random collection of lifeless chemicals not intricately designed sperm cells, ovum and countless other things with millions of WILDLY complex biochemical machines working in concert to produce a new human life. Clete
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    I can understand the sentiment but sound reason is not a matter of opinion. The only thing anyone must prove is the veracity of their own arguments, which includes the veracity of the premises upon which those arguments are built. The only way it would their burden to prove the non-existence of...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    You are the problem because I repeatedly invited you to make an argument and what you showed up with is mindless bigotry. You could just as easily posted what you just said and then I would have asked you to establish how that has anything to do with whether any particular Catholic denies one...
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    Two wrongs do not make a right. Right? If an atheist is being irrational and tries to make a faith based scientific argument, that doesn't give us the right to make the same error. On the contrary, the way to win such a debate would be to point out the atheist's error, not endorse it by copying...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Just as I thought. You've got exactly NOTHING! You show up here, making patently idiot and insulting claims with absolutely no basis whatsoever other than some indefensible anti-Catholic bigotry. Clete
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    Two things here... First, "God exists" is not a negative so I'm still confused as to your point. Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult here. We just aren't in sync here yet. Second, it is not impossible to prove a negative. That's sort of a common misconception because there are so many...
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    Dinosaurs are fake and leads to atheism!

    I agree but simply making that claim isn't an argument, right? And, if you're debating an atheist who doesn't care about Genesis chapter 1 then it would be you who had the burden to prove the veracity of that claim, not the atheist's burden to disprove it because you're the one making the...
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