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I can see I'm getting a bunch of crap from a know it all. I'm assuming I can safely say that since you have set me such a good example.

Okay, I'm drawing a blank. Fill me in.

Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of...

My interest in this topic is the Pretrib rapture. Of course I'll concentrate on that. I do skim past a lot of what you say because I'm not interested in symbolism etc. and I don't believe Revelation holds as much as you think. I've been back and forwards and up and down with Revelation for...

Mystery or Profitable? It's probably both. One thing we do know, it's got an incredible wealth of information concerning the future. I'm not sure if any of it has much to say about the church. We've learned more about our destiny from Paul than from what John writes in Revelation. It's...

Wow, they've gone totally over the edge. How quickly the world has changed!

Wow. At least you aren't too strict on this forum. That's a plus.

I just spent some time looking to the Hebrew and the meaning of this portion of scripture. Some agree with you, and others don't. What I found very interesting was the agreement seemed to be that it was talking about losing immortality. Even those who said, "dying you shall die" was speaking...

Well, I think God has all the bases covered. We just have to see where each fits in. :)

It's in my Bible, so I'll stick with that.

Paul is not saying the law kills any more than he is saying we are dead to sin. Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? What the law does is condemn us to death, and that is what Paul is talking about. You're missing his point totally in chapter...

That scripture has nothing to do with actually being "dead"....it has to do with the LAW and being condemned by the LAW to death. The rest of your words are nothing more than conjecture. Where is your scripture to prove it? You said, "Having the ability to hear and respond to the gospel is...

And this next verse tells us something else... God's not changing here, that's for sure. Malachi 3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein...

I'm speaking of the Antichrist of the end days. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in...

I think the deception was only possible because of the word "surely". Whether any part of Adam died that day, or whether his access to the tree of life was cut off and he would eventually die, or whether he was condemned to die because of his sin are all in the realm of possibility. The...

Nope....armed or girded. Looks like we've both been reading Exodus. lol He made some really good points in that piece.

Do you think he meant this. Exodus 13:18 But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt. Yep, it means armed or girded according to the Concordance.

Totally awesome. Thank you for sharing.

Some say we begin to die the moment we are born. The dying process takes quite some time for most people.

Oh dear. We're not slipping into anything. You admitted you beleived in the Pretrib rapture at one time. Perhaps you need to take another look. No nee to be so sensitive. I not accusing you of anything. I'm talking about generalities regarding the post tribulation rapture....which so many...