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And here we are still trying to figure it out.

There is one Gospel of Salvation...by grace through faith for Jews and Gentiles....during this church age, this age of Grace. But that isn't the Gospel Jesus was preaching. He and the apostles were preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom....which was God's Kingdom on earth where Jesus would rule...

Paul seems quite confident. 2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. I'm not...

These verses come to mind. Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in...

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of verses that speak of the soul departing and not dying. The exception, of course, is when the word "soul" is used as a living human being. Like forty souls lost in the shipwreck. But the soul is the person, himself. The thinking, reasoning, being with...

I'm seeing the Gospel of the Kingdom being preached that requires faith and commandment observance (works). That isn't Paul's Gospel. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only...

Yes, I see. (y)

As if it was perfectly planned from the beginning. :)

So now I see the importance of confessing the Lord. Thank you, Dan.

Ah, I may be slow, but I get there. Thanks, friend.

What do you think of this one? Steven in Acts 7? If it's a human judge, he can condemn me to physical death. If it's God, He can condemn me to burn in hell fire. Newness of life. That would be with the Spirit of Christ in me. Yes, our body is a temporary tent, if you will. Our spirit and...

Hmmm. I'm not seeing it.

That's what I'm thinking. If the church is not in the holy city of Jerusalem descending out of heaven, then where are we? I don't believe we stay on the earth for the earthly kingdom, do you?

Pretty clever there. But I don't think we're taken out of Christ. I think we're baptized INTO Him. Of course, He is also IN us. Sorta making us one, which is supposed to be a husband wife relationship. :unsure:

Yes, and there's the other side of the story. What about when is says the "Lamb's wife"? That's pretty Jewish. Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee...

Yes, I know you have. When I first came to this forum the dispensational people really helped me figure a lot of things out that I couldn't before. I realize now the mid-acts might be considered hyper-dispensational, but the regular dispensationalists still miss some things that the folks here...

I'm wondering why you see any intermediate state between absent from the body and present with the Lord. This is a little clearer to me. Philippians 1: 21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I...

Shame on me? Do you actually read the things you post before you hit reply? :poop: You ramble on and on ad nauseum as if you were some great teacher. But, in the middle of that wordy "post" you wrote, "The law is what kills us, and Paul is rather emphatic about this: "What shall we say...

You should look at the dispensational angle. Many of your questions would be answered.

Ah, see there. You say the letter kills and JR says satan condemns. So, if I break the law, is it the law that kills me or does it condemn me to death? Who pronounces sentence? Of course we are body, soul, and spirit. Yes, the spirit and soul exist apart from the body.