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It's false and evil.It was real easy. Islam helped a lot.
You should get saved and join the body of Christ.
It's false and evil.It was real easy. Islam helped a lot.
Why prophecy? To prove God is in control. To comfort those not in control who are suffering. You don't need to understand it but it is there if you need some kind of assurance. The Apocalypse has concepts not addressed in any other place in the bible. Like the second death. Who talks about that? Like New Jerusalem. Who talks about that without putting it in the future. The future is for those who can't find prophecies already fulfilled in history. Many don't even bother looking. Most don't know how to connect history and prophecy. I use numbers and colors. Words you can trust. All the other words can be mistranslated or misinterpreted by men who are not necessarily inspired. That is why we have over 60 English bibles each with many revisions. Who can you trust? What can you trust? The Church does not have an official explanation for the Apocalypse which allows us to speculate. Nothing wrong with speculation if it is reasonable. So what is reasonable?When this book was first written, the time was near for the first coming. Now the time is near for the second coming.
Come Lord Jesus.
So, I did! I reserve the right to change my mind.In a thread that has apparently been deleted, you told Lon goodbye forever and that you were done with TOL
What is reasonable? To say the Apocalypse, written 2000 years ago, is about the second coming is not reasonable when it says the time is near. To say it is about the first coming could be reasonable if it was written before Jesus. We have reason to believe there is a version of the Apocalypse that didn't have the seven churches. Eusebius and Victorinus are not aware of them. John the Baptist was preparing the way for the lamb, a word found 27 times in the Apocalypse. We also have Irenaeus mentioning ancient copies of the Apocalypse.Why prophecy? To prove God is in control. To comfort those not in control who are suffering. You don't need to understand it but it is there if you need some kind of assurance. The Apocalypse has concepts not addressed in any other place in the bible. Like the second death. Who talks about that? Like New Jerusalem. Who talks about that without putting it in the future. The future is for those who can't find prophecies already fulfilled in history. Many don't even bother looking. Most don't know how to connect history and prophecy. I use numbers and colors. Words you can trust. All the other words can be mistranslated or misinterpreted by men who are not necessarily inspired. That is why we have over 60 English bibles each with many revisions. Who can you trust? What can you trust? The Church does not have an official explanation for the Apocalypse which allows us to speculate. Nothing wrong with speculation if it is reasonable. So what is reasonable?
How long have you been working on this?
Twenty eight years.
How long have you been online?
Twenty years.
Are you satisfied with what you did?
Very satisfied.
Islam: You have to live by our rules.
People: But I don't really want to.
Islam: TOO BAD
I ended up noticing this post this moring and read most of it before I realized what I was reading. It deserves at least some sort of response...In a thread that has apparently been deleted, you told Lon goodbye forever and that you were done with TOL so I'm not going to spend much time replying to your post except to say that for anyone reading your above, I'd recommend they look for themselves into how chatbots hallucinate, and why and what that means for factual accuracy.
And for the love of Pete, already I wish people would stop relying on chatbots to do their thinking for them. I've seen too many forum members here and elsewhere give some variation on "I sent your post through chat GPT to understand/respond to it" and then insert their own biases into the prompt ensuring them AI would give a summation that would confirm their negative opinion of the other poster and justify their own response.
Now it's "I asked chatGPT this" and "I had this conversation with chatGPT" and now people are relying on chatGPT for things in all kinds of categories for which they used to use their own brain. And no, it's not like using a calculator instead of a pencil or doing a Google search, people are literally and mindlessly allowing chatGPT to do the heavy lifting of the simplest things, including trying to understand what someone has just said to them.
When I see someone say "I used/asked/prompted chatGPT" to compose a post, I've begun ignoring those posts. Bullet points? Several key categorical headings, followed by a conclusion? Dead giveaways, even if they don't say they used it upfront, which at least you have done, but not everyone does. Forums seem like a last vestige of the old internet, but if users are mostly chatGPT regurgitators then why bother?
Sorry @chrysostom for my part in taking your thread off-topic.
Edited to add: The thread is back, I guess maybe it was temporarily hidden.
It's too bad you haven't, in twenty eight years, learned to engage in two way discussion with people. You might have wasted a lot less time.How long have you been working on this?
Twenty eight years.
How long have you been online?
Twenty years.
Are you satisfied with what you did?
Very satisfied.
Don't get lost in the weeds. Step back and get a look at the big picture. Who are the major players and what are they trying to do?How long have you been working on this?
Twenty eight years.
How long have you been online?
Twenty years.
Are you satisfied with what you did?
Very satisfied.
I usual prefer the literal, but you seem to be searching for anything in your time frame that might fit.It doesn't have to be but you should always look for it. Don't ever ignore a literal interpretation.
Why would we go to your ask me anything thread when uou just ask Chat GPT. It's like having to go through a negotiator--just to talk to artificial intelligence. What does that make you, assistant to the artificial intelligence?So, I did! I reserve the right to change my mind.
In this case, I hadn't actually changed my mind per se. I had taken everyone I could find off my ignore list, including you, just in case there was someone on that list who wanted to participate in the "Ask me anything" thread I started. I haven't placed anyone back on it unless and until they did something new to deserve it.
As for everything else you wrote. I didn't read it and won't.
I literally could not care less about anything you have to say about anyone or anything. As is the case with very nearly every person on this website.
Yes, why not? The first order of business is to see if the prophecy is already fulfilled.I usual prefer the literal, but you seem to be searching for anything in yiur time frame that might fit.
Getting attention nowadays is not easy. Everyone needs help doing that. Thank you Clete for bringing your readers to my thread. I need all the help I can get. The end is near for me. Fighting the good fight, finishing the race, and keeping the faith has been my goal of late. Thank you Paul. I hope I have not wrested your words.Don't get lost in the weeds. Step back and get a look at the big picture. Who are the major players and what are they trying to do?
Jesus, Mohammed, Marx, and the rest. If you are with the rest, pay attention, you will be dominated by one of the big three. If you are free to move and want to stay free, go where Jesus is still in control. The other two don't think you should be free. Just look at where they are all moving. There is a good reason. They want to be free.