drbrumley
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Christ assured!
BOOM!!!!
Christ assured!
AMEN!Christ assured!
Ditto!BOOM!!!!
Trust in Christ certainly implies more than a punched ticket to heaven or “fire insurance”. But that’s my point. Those that really rest on and in Him are secure regardless. Those that are not His will not persevere. They went out from us because they were not of us.
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Trust in Christ certainly implies more than a punched ticket to heaven or “fire insurance”. But that’s my point. Those that really rest on and in Him are secure regardless. Those that are not His will not persevere. They went out from us because they were not of us.
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The Apostle John wrote an entire chapter to assure God's people that they are indeed God's people.
"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God: that ye may know that ye have eternal life and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." (1 John 5:13).
That ye may KNOW? What??
Bottom line, you say your own obedience separate from God’s work is the requirement for God to work in and save someone. I say that isn’t mercy but reward - something you have to work for. Obedience is a necessity but it is a marker...NOT the foundation.
I am merely repeating what is in the Greek. It is pretty clear that there was something that God did and accomplished in eternity past that is effectual for us now. I won’t say I understand it all but when one’s righteousness is dependent upon God’s work, it has to be unilaterally Him in men who are dead in trespasses and sin. If there is any eternal good in us then we need to make use of that. If not, we are blind and hopeless unless He takes out the heart of stone and gives us a heart of flesh.
What part of the scriptures I cited do you believe I am misinterpreting?
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And...?
Christians are the only ones in this world of sin who can be "comfortable". We are safe in Christ Jesus. Satan has no power over us at all.
Only God is good is about goodness originating from God. It doesn't mean no one can be good because I gave you the scriptures that say there are people with good hearts.There is none good but God.
You didn't quote that scripture right. That scripture doesn't mean all hearts are deceitful and wicked; it means out of all the things in the world, man's heart has the potential to be the most deceitful and wicked.The heart of man is deceitful and desperately wicked and who can know it?
And who was justified? The one who thanked God that he was good or the one who humbled himself before Him seeking mercy?
All the goodness a man has is predicated on God.
The differences between us come in the position obedience has in the life of the believer. Not a question of whether it should be there or not, but what gives weight to it (or rather what it gives weight to). Those who come to Him are necessarily drawn of the Father.
We have this blessed assurance !!!Christ assured!
We have this blessed assurance !!!
Christ assured!