Wot's YOUR favourite disaster?

tetelestai

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Wot's YOUR favourite disaster?

Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Bonham, and John Paul Jones are from England just like you are.

My guess is that their favorite disaster was the Hinendburg disaster.

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What's with you Brits and disasters?
 

nikolai_42

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Of course disasters are not fun, not a bit. I am totally transfixed by them, how they happened, I want to know every single detail.

I was born and raised in Southampton England and it is from there that the Titanic set off on her maiden voyage, I think I had barely learned to read before I was studying every little detail of the tragedy that unfolded that fateful night.

I am especially transfixed by air disasters. I am currently on the case of the 401 which crashed in the Miami swamps. The pilots became so engrossed in a dud lightbulb they failed to notice that the autopilot had disengaged and they were descending.

I don't know that I have a "favorite" disaster (the term favorite doesn't associate with catastrophes in my mind) but many of them do call to my mind the power and Sovereignty of God in our day and in history. I think that if history were written more by people who believed in this that we would see more understanding of God's judgments in the earth. And to His Sovereignty and the greatness of His creation, I find myself chuckling at the Global Warming crowd who think man is responsible for burning a hole in the ozone layer and warming the earth up a degree or two (when, in actual fact, it has lately been cooling). One large volcanic eruption does more to impact the earth's atmosphere than all the CFC's man can throw upwards. Not that smog isn't a problem that we have created, but total environmental disruption is, I think, man thinking too much of himself.

And the one disaster that I find most fascinating would be actually multiple related disasters that brought the curtains down on the Roman Empire about 1500 years ago. There was an interesting book written on the subject entitled Catastrophe by David Keys. And in it, he makes the case that a volcano erupted and impacted every part of the earth in multiple ways (environmentally, politically, economically and healthwise). He describes how the plague totally changed the way the world looked in a few years (again, politically) and how this was done by "nature".

In describing some of the effects of this time of great upheaval, he quotes (directly or paraphrase, I can't recall) one John of Ephesus who was apparently a clergyman and an historian (as those often went hand in hand). John describes the plague that ravaged the empire and talks of those who were infected by the disease as well as those who weren't. Apparently there was natural immunity that some had. He talks of bodies piling up in the streets and entire families being wiped out - and in some instances one or two in a family who survived in despair. Essentially left alone when their loved ones were killed, they would try to get the disease by throwing themselves on the corpses (but to no avail). In reading that, I became aware that scripture spoke to that :

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Luke 17:34-37

And while I don't say (necessarily) that this is a direct, complete fulfillment of that prophecy, it certainly does highlight the manner of God's judgment being consistent - and shows that judgment is what the passage is talking about.

The book puts on display how even the smallest of organisms (fleas) can literally turn the world upside down. How natural disasters can change things in an instant. The volcano that Keys believes erupted is said to have caused most of the earth to have heavily filtered sunlight for the better part of a year. It has been shown in different ways that this happened - reminding one of prophecy to this effect :

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:29

That it should be a part of the same discourse Jesus gave on the signs of His coming is interesting and probably not coincidental. And even if it is not the final fulfillment of that prophecy (could "end of the age" refer to the fall of the Roman Empire?), there certainly was the Lord coming in judgment at that time. The whole world experienced massive political change in that time (again, from Keys' book) which falls in line with the stars falling from heaven and the powers of the heavens being shaken.

The bottom line for me was that this confirmed that history does (for those who will look for it) reveal prophetic fulfillment of God's work in the earth. It also helped solidify the idea in my mind that we aren't in some parenthetical age but that God's prophetic plan continues to unfold as He has willed it from the beginning.
 

TomO

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Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Bonham, and John Paul Jones are from England just like you are.

My guess is that their favorite disaster was the Hinendburg disaster.

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What's with you Brits and disasters?

Nah....Actually they had been told that their band (originally named :"The New Yardbirds") was going to have the same success (according to Keith Moon of The Who) as the ill-fated Hindenburg....Had it been constructed of Lead.

The spelling of lead as "LED" was intentional so as not to be confused with "lead" as in; I "lead" while you follow.

Useless knowledge supplemented free of charge. :plain:
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Bonham, and John Paul Jones are from England just like you are.

My guess is that their favorite disaster was the Hinendburg disaster.

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What's with you Brits and disasters?

Didn't Josephus write about seeing flaming zeppelins over Jerusalem in 70ad?
 

Buzzword

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The spelling of lead as "LED" was intentional so as not to be confused with "lead" as in; I "lead" while you follow.

According to some sources, this choice was because Americans are too stupid to get "lead" as "the element" (which is in reference to a critic saying that the band would go off "like a lead balloon").
 

tetelestai

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Didn't Josephus write about seeing flaming zeppelins over Jerusalem in 70ad?

No, but just like Totten and the guys from Led Zeppelin; John Nelson Darby was also born in England.

So was E.W. Bullinger and Sir Robert Anderson.

Can Dispensationalism be counted as a disaster?
 

TomO

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According to some sources, this choice was because Americans are too stupid to get "lead" as "the element" (which is in reference to a critic saying that the band would go off "like a lead balloon").

Right....Keith Moon....Never heard the "too stupid" angle before though I have to admit. :plain:
 

Town Heretic

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According to some sources, this choice was because Americans are too stupid to get "lead" as "the element" (which is in reference to a critic saying that the band would go off "like a lead balloon").
I like balloons...:chew:...they're chewy.

Sorry. Would this thread suffice as my favorite disaster? :think: That's my final answer.
 

Jedidiah

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Pan Am vs KLM Jumbo collision


What a series of misadventures, first their destined airport was closed down due to a terrorist threat, these two colossal Jumbos were diverted to a much smaller airport.

After the horrific crash the blame game began between the Americans and the Dutch and the Dutch and the Air traffic control and Americans.

The ATC were impeccable in the most trying of conditions. The Pan Am pilots were in the wrong place although their decision to pass "Charlie" 3 turn off in favour of "Charlie" 4 made totally good sense. But the KLM pilots made the all critical error in taking off before proper permission was given.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster
 

musterion

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"Physical Graffiti" is what preterjesus did to the temple.

"Presence" is what preterjesus was in the Roman legion.

"CODA" is a preterist anagram for SPQR. This is obvious to anyone above the level of simian or dispensationalist.

Other pretties say "CODA" is Confounding Obtuse Darbyite...sorry, can't make out the last word.

Zep knew, man.
 

whitestone

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My thread title was unwise I see that now.

But as usual the Americans are to blame.

I had been watching a tv prog about plane disasters and the guy who was narrating it was stupid, I couldn't watch it because he sensationalised it, like the guy who introduces Judge Judy....that's what made me think of the thread title.

lol,shhh,don't tell them or one of them might try to figure out which parts were edited out of the documentaries before they air them in the U.S.,,,lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_(BBC_TV_series)
 

Daniel1611

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The Johnstown Flood of 1889 in Johnstown, PA is really interesting. I've read a lot about it. I'm born and raised in Johnstown so its maybe more interesting to me than some. It was the largest death toll in a single event on American soil in history until the Twin Towers on 9/11. Check it out.
 

john w

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Did you have to make a moulage out of Tot's thread?

What's next? Greasing the steps at the old folks home?

Oh, boy, you're just full of fun today, aren't ya? Why don't you go over to Mr. Schwump's house, and set with him, and Myrtle "Hub Caps" Lesch, and throw rocks, at the cars driving down Main Street, so everyone will know you're the "Big Cheese!?" You beat everything- you know that?
 

glorydaz

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Oh, boy, you're just full of fun today, aren't ya? Why don't you go over to Mr. Schwump's house, and set with him, and Myrtle "Hub Caps" Lesch, and throw rocks, at the cars driving down Main Street, so everyone will know you're the "Big Cheese!?" You beat everything- you know that?

I think he's cruisin' for a bruisin'.
 
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