Why Your Faith in a Doctrine or a Religion Will NOT Save You

[Nanja]

Salvation is a gift from God, not an imposition.

The Gift of Salvation was reckoned upon a People within the Mind of God according to His Purpose and Grace given them in Christ Jesus before the world began.

2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

It had nothing to do with forcing; neither was it offered them to accept or reject.

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


The word peculiar is the Gr. word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions

a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession


But the carnal / natural man, such as yourself cannot receive these Truths, he considers them foolishness!

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[Robert Pate]

So God just gives His gift to anyone?

"Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

 

[Robert Pate]

The Gift of Salvation was reckoned upon a People within the Mind of God according to His Purpose and Grace given them in Christ Jesus before the world began.

2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

It had nothing to do with forcing; neither was it offered them to accept or reject.

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


The word peculiar is the Gr. word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions

a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession


But the carnal / natural man, such as yourself cannot receive these Truths, he considers them foolishness!

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

If God imposed salvation on some and not all then he is unjust. If God is unjust how then can you love and trust him? Answer: You can't.

 

[beloved57]

And you just happen to be one of them. Salvation is a gift from God, not an imposition.

You teach that man is his own savior and deny Christ!

 

[beloved57]

"Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

You teach salvation by works, by what man does!

 

[Nanja]

If God imposed salvation on some and not all then he is unjust. If God is unjust how then can you love and trust him? Answer: You can't.

No impostiion / forcing.

Salvation was Given to God's Election of Grace Eph. 1:4-7; Rom. 11:5, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23!


No sin was imputed to them, but to their Surety Christ Jesus Heb. 7:22 in their stead. They are truly Blessed!


Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

It had nothing to do with forcing; neither was it offered them to accept or reject.

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


The word peculiar is the Gr. word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions

a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

Ps. 145:17
The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.

Never let it be said otherwise!

The Love and Trust I have for my Heavenly Father is beyond your comprehension!

 

[Robert Pate]

No impostiion / forcing.

Salvation was Given to God's Election of Grace Eph. 1:4-7; Rom. 11:5, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23!


No sin was imputed to them, but to their Surety Christ Jesus Heb. 7:22 in their stead. They are truly Blessed!


Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.








The Love and Trust I have for my Heavenly Father is beyond your comprehension!

The God that you love and trust does not exist. It is most certainly not the God of the Bible. It is a God that was created in the warped mind of John Calvin the heretic.

 

[Nanja]

The God that you love and trust does not exist. It is most certainly not the God of the Bible. It is a God that was created in the warped mind of John Calvin the heretic.

You're incapable of making that assessment.

For it is apparent by your disbelief of the scriptures that you are void of the Spirit of God. You are none of His Rom. 8:9!

 

[Robert Pate]

You're incapable of making that assessment.

For it is apparent by your disbelief of the scriptures that you are void of the Spirit of God. You are none of His Rom. 8:9!

All heretics have one thing in common. When they are corrected they always accuse the person of correcting them of being unsaved. I have been a Gospel believing Christian for 48 years.

 

[patrick jane]

So God just gives His gift to anyone?

Romans 10:13 KJV -

 

[God's Truth]

Romans 10:13 KJV -

People called on Jesus' name after they repented of their sins.


Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name

A person has to repent of their sins and then call on his name.

Acts 2:21
And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

[God's Truth]

"Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

In the Bible, those who call on Jesus first repented of their sins.

 

[Nanja]

I have been a Gospel believing Christian for 48 years.

Your belief is in a false gospel of works or requirements a person does to get himself saved Eph. 2:8-9.

 

[Robert Pate]

Your belief is in a false gospel of works or requirements a person does to get himself saved Eph. 2:8-9.

There is no work that anyone can do that will save them. You have misinterpreted Ephesians 2:8.

"For by grace (God's Goodness) are you saved". God saw the plight of fallen man and sent his only begotten Son unto the world to atone for the sins of the world, 1 John 2:2.

"Through faith" through faith alone, apart from works, laws or religion.

"And not that of yourselves" We had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with our salvation. While we were yet sinners Christ died for us.

"It is the gift of God" Salvation is a free gift from God that can only be received or rejected. If it is imposed it is no longer a gift it is an imposition. The Bible knows nothing about an imposition.

 

[Robert Pate]

In the Bible, those who call on Jesus first repented of their sins.

Bible does not say that. What it does say is that, "But to him that does no works (or obedience) but believes on him (Jesus) that justifies the UNGODLY his faith (not his works or obedience) is counted for righteousness" Romans 4:5.

You are a false teacher.

 

[patrick jane]

People called on Jesus' name after they repented of their sins.


Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name

A person has to repent of their sins and then call on his name.

Acts 2:21
And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

You are a false teacher

 

[God's Truth]

You are a false teacher

Maybe you are?

 

[God's Truth]

Bible does not say that. What it does say is that, "But to him that does no works (or obedience) but believes on him (Jesus) that justifies the UNGODLY his faith (not his works or obedience) is counted for righteousness" Romans 4:5.

You are a false teacher.

You prove you cannot prove your beliefs unless you add to the scriptures. Just look at what you did to that scripture. Sick.

People called on Jesus' name after they repented of their sins.


Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name

A person has to repent of their sins and then call on his name.

Acts 2:21
And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Nanja]

"It is the gift of God" Salvation is a free gift from God that can only be received or rejected. If it is imposed it is no longer a gift it is an imposition. The Bible knows nothing about an imposition.

You are a false prophet, a liar like your father John 8:44!


Nanja

No impostiion / forcing.

Salvation was Given to God's Election of Grace Eph. 1:4-7; Rom. 11:5, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23!


No sin was imputed to them, but to their Surety Christ Jesus Heb. 7:22 in their stead. They are truly Blessed!


Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Nanja

It had nothing to do with forcing; neither was it offered them to accept or reject.

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


The word peculiar is the Gr. word periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions

a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession

 

[Robert Pate]

You prove you cannot prove your beliefs unless you add to the scriptures. Just look at what you did to that scripture. Sick.

People called on Jesus' name after they repented of their sins.


Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name

A person has to repent of their sins and then call on his name.

Acts 2:21
And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

You don't believe the Gospel, nor do you believe that you have been justified by faith. Peter did not understand what it meant to be justified by faith, Galatians 2:11-21. He had to learn it from Paul.