ECT Why preterism can never be taken seriously by Bible believers

[john w]

Wrong again Little Johnny.

There is more of a percentage of Christians in China today, than there ever was.

There are more Christians in China today than there are in the United States.

You need to get out more. You need to take a trip outside of Texas, and see the world.

"There is more of a percentage of Christians in China today, than there ever was."-Jethro

Wrong again, little arms, girlie looking Craigie.

How did you get so stupid, punk?
The percentage in the world, comprised of Christians, is down, you moron.


Craigie's "logic:" In 1970, for eg., there were 1000 people in China, 20 being Christians=2%, and in the world, 2000 people in the world, in 1970, 24 being Christian=1.2%
In 2016, for eg., there are 2000 people in China,=60 being Christians=3%, and 6000 people in the world, 61 being Christian, =1%

See!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!There are more Chinese Christians today, %age wise,then ever!!!!!!

The punk, being so stupid, cannot "figger" out that the world's population of Christians is going down, %age wise.

That is what the bible prophesises. Don't you believe the bible, ratty,greasie looking little punk? You taught us that.

Do you even have a high school egeeecashun, sweetie?

Hw did you get so stupid, you effeminate, little chin/arms twit?


"You need to get out more. You need to take a trip outside of Texas, and see the world."-Tellilie the weasel


1.That's rich, Craigie, coming from an unemployed loser, like yourself, that stays home, everyday, as a rat, on TOL, 16 hours/day, to satisfy his obsession.

2. Quit plagiarizing me, you piece of filth, as you copied that directly from me, on other threads, you vile, little boy looking troll.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

"You need to get out more. You need to take a trip outside of Texas, and see the world."-Tellilie the weasel

I trust that you're coming to the 4th of July Parade in Mount Pilot again this summer?

 

[tetelestai]

Is he exercising dominion over the earth, first heaven, and second heaven?

The Lord is omniscient and omnipotent.

 

[tetelestai]

That is what the bible prophesises.

Please show me where in the Bible it says the percentage of Christians in the world will decrease?

 

[john w]

Joshua makes it clear that the land promise was fulfilled.

The kingdom is not of this world, it's not on planet earth, and it never will be on planet earth.

You Darby followers are unable to understand the difference between the fulfilled land promise, and the promises of the kingdom.

There you go, quoting his infallible teacher, according to him-Josephus.

 

[john w]

Joshua makes it clear that the land promise was fulfilled.

1.At that time. There were additional land promises, after the one verse in Joshua, that you spam, which you, then, as a good Preterist mystic, then ...

2. Change to "figurative...fulfilled in Christ..."

The kingdom is not of this world, it's not on planet earth, and it never will be on planet earth.

Made up-refuted. You are in denial.

QED.

 

[john w]

You're 3P3P isn't supported with scripture.

It didn't exist until E.W. Bullinger.

It's a false doctrine.

There is one Lord, one Body, one faith.

You should really quit trying to divide Christ Jesus.

(1 Cor 1:13) Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

What right do you have to change earth, the city, and heaven into one, and redefine all biblical words?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

What right do you have to change earth, the city, and heaven into one, and redefine all biblical words?

I wonder where such authority comes from...

 

[john w]

Joshua was written AFTER Gen 17:18

Joshua makes it cyrstal clear the land promise in Gen 17:18 was fulfilled a long time ago.

However, because you're a Bullingerite, you claim Gen 17:18 is unfulfilled.

(Joshua 21:43,45) So the Lord gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their ancestors, and they took possession of it and settled there., Not one of all the Lord’s good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.

Joshua - "every land promise was fulfilled"

STP - "the land promise in Gen 17:18 is still unfulfilled"

:kookoo:

There were additional land promises, after the Joshua passage demon, that expanded it. You, in deceit, then change those land promises, with your Preterist mysticism, magical wand, to "figurative..fulfilled in Christ."


By what right, sweetie,little girl looking troll?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

By what right, sweetie,little girl looking troll?

Did his father give him that authority?

 

[john w]

All fulfilled.

Christ Jesus united the two houses when He put the NC in place with His shed blood. Christ Jesus is now King of kings, and Lord of lords.

The kingdom is not of this world. The New Jerusalem is above, and is the mother of us all.

It's a kingdom with no death, no tears. It's a kingdom that cannot be shaken. It's a kingdom where swords are beat into plowshares because the kingdom needs not be defended. It's a kingdom where the lamb lies with the wolf.

Craigie denies this-on record:
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Craigie denies this-on record:
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

wherein your fathers have dwelt


Well, you see, Ezekiel's fathers dwelt in heaven (spiritually)

 

[tetelestai]

Did his father give him that authority?

Try reading the Apostle Paul's epistles instead of being a Bullingerite.

There is one body, one faith, one Lord.

Quit trying to divide Christ !!!!

 

[john w]

All fulfilled.

Christ Jesus united the two houses when He put the NC in place with His shed blood. Christ Jesus is now King of kings, and Lord of lords.

The kingdom is not of this world. The New Jerusalem is above, and is the mother of us all.

It's a kingdom with no death, no tears. It's a kingdom that cannot be shaken. It's a kingdom where swords are beat into plowshares because the kingdom needs not be defended. It's a kingdom where the lamb lies with the wolf.

Observe, the deception:

"It's a kingdom with no death, no tears. It's a kingdom that cannot be shaken. It's a kingdom where swords are beat into plowshares because the kingdom needs not be defended. It's a kingdom where the lamb lies with the wolf."-weasel

Isaiah 2:4 KJV And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.


The above is prophecy.


Tell us, Tellalie, when was this fulfilled, as "the third heaven" never was subject to wars amongst nations, nations being judged there, the context of Isaiah 2:4 KJV. God rebuking people in the third heaven, sweetie, putting an end of war, between nations?

" because the kingdom needs not be defended."

The third heaven had, at one time, needed defending, from war between nations/people,sweetie?


Revelation 21:4 KJV And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.



The above is prophecy.


Tell us, Tellalie, when was this fulfilled, as "the third heaven" never was subject to tears, pain, death, sorrow, crying, pain....?


Well, sweetie, mystic?

 

[tetelestai]

The third heaven had, at one time, needed defending, from war between nations/people,sweetie?

Nope.

All those things happened on planet earth under the OC when the nation of Israel had to beat their plowshares into swords in order to defend their kingdom.

Old Covenant - the nation of Israel was the kingdom.

New Covenant - a spiritual kingdom that is not of this world.

 

[john w]

He also won the first and second heaven, apparently.

Like Satan, Tet does not want the LORD to have dominion over ALL of his creation.

Prophecy:
Zechariah 14:9 KJV And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.


Craigie: Fulfilled in Christ...Fulfilled AD 70....You are in denial....This does not apply to the earth's realm, as it applies to the third heaven, as before, way back yonder, he was not king in the third heaven, and there were more than 1 "Lord" in the third heaven, and His name was not one, in the third heaven, at one time, you see, uh, urr...Fulfilled ad 70..........Darby....You are in denial...........

 

[john w]

There was never a time when the Lord did not have dominion over all of His creation, nor will there ever be a time when He doesn't.

Zechariah 14:9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

The first coming: To resolve the sin/sins issue

The second coming, "the second time:" To resolve the evil issue, on planet earth, to restore "the days of heaven upon the earth..."(Deuteronomy 11:21 KJV).



Craigie:This is the greatest time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Evil is gone!!!! You are all in denial!!!! The Lord's name is one!!!!Enjoy!!!!!! You are all in denial!!!!!Pay no attention, to the man behind the curtain, who wrote Zechariah 14:9 KJV.....Darby............No one can answer me.....You all are in denial....

 

[steko]

Of course not.

He was defeated at the cross, then thrown out of heaven down to planet earth, then he was bound, and remains bound until the thousand years are over, and then he will be cast into the lake of fire forever.



Yes I do.

I have redemption through the shed blood of Christ Jesus.

You appear to believe in a limited redemption and in the case of believers, you don't seem to believe in a literal resurrection of the body.

Yet, Paul proclaims that not only will our physical bodies be redeemed but the whole creation, as well:

Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

 

[tetelestai]

Prophecy:
Zechariah 14:9 KJV And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

Fulfilled

Christ Jesus is the King of kings, Lord of lords over all of earth.

(Rev 1:5) and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth....

 

[john w]

Your Bullingerism can never stand the test of scripture.

Vs.

"Josephus and Tacitus wrote of.."-Craigie


Little arms Craigie, the Josephus, the Christ rejector, follower.