Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

[Arthur Brain]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Based on their unhealthy lifestyle, those who engage in homosex* seem to contract various kinds of cancer more than others. But we're not talking about any kind of cancer Al, we're talking about a cancer that happens when someone puts something in a place that it should never ever go. :nono:

*something about hermaphrodites




Unless they're putting asbestos in hairspray Al, I'd say that your average homosexual is pretty safe from contracting Mesothelioma.

And another completely gratuitous pic there...

lain:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Let me think for a second who would be your ideal President: Hmmmm...Harvey Milk is dead and here in the US, to my knowledge, you can't write a dead person in on a ballot. Sorry Art

Then you needed to think for more than a second. Whoever I would cast a vote for would encompass the welfare, freedom and liberty of the populus and not run on a ballot of rhetoric, so as you can imagine, I'm pretty cynical where it comes to politics in general...

It's good to know that you would vote for a candidate that would take action to defend the religious liberty and freedom of all of those people of faith (and some who aren't) that have been and still are being persecuted for speaking out against the 'gaystapo' Art.

Wait...you weren't talking about that kind of "freedom and liberty" were you?


Quote: aCultureWarrior
Ah yes, a stroll down memory lane. TOL's finest came out to greet me in that thread. Let's see, there was a transvestite who was engaged to 'marry' a guy who was going to have his genitals mutilated to become a pretend woman. There was a Libertarian who ran around in a pink bunny suit (just say NO! to drugs people). I lost count of the ones in the thread who had "daddy issues" (and most likely turned to homosexuality because of it). Lesbians....yes, TOL has them as well.

I'm not sure where the former? Satanist came up with the idea that I'm a woman, but then someone who HATES God so much that he worshipped Satan, well, let's just say his mental health isn't too "healthy".

Now that you've had your little drama queen fix for the night...

He said you told him that, and Granite isn't in the business of inventing stuff like that up so did you say that to him or not? Whatever you think of the guys beliefs personally are irrelevant here. He's blunt but honest, so did you say that as aSC or not?

Let's just say that when he called me a fag and he took extreme offense to my reply (that his wife doesn't seem to think so), I highly doubt that he thought I was a lesbian.

So that you don't dwell on yet another fixation of yours: No, I never have said I was a woman, never felt like I was a female trapped in a males body, nor anything that comes close to resembling the "T" in the movement that you hold so very close to your pea pickin heart.

 

[alwight]

Unless they're putting asbestos in hairspray Al, I'd say that your average homosexual is pretty safe from contracting Mesothelioma.

So we can agree that if certain, perhaps unwise actions are taken, then the chances of getting cancer will be increased. Cause and effect but not a judgement from God, right?
People who indulge in anal sex (presumably many more heterosexuals than homosexuals)) may or may not worry about such consequences and may or may not take precautions, whether they are effeminate gay hair stylists or those who are in a long term heterosexual relationship, perhaps married with kids.

Your only argument for criminalising homosexuals is that of a Christian fundamentalist as an adherent to an ancient scripture that you deem to be God's Word. All the stuff about diseases are nothing but added on misinformation that you may think conveniently helps your fundie agenda but is in fact nothing of the kind and hypocrisy.

As a Christian fundie it's gay people being openly gay which you are presumably compelled to vilify by any means available, even if you are personally entertained by homoerotic images yourself and know full well that any involved health risks are not specific to only gay people.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Unless they're putting asbestos in hairspray Al, I'd say that your average homosexual is pretty safe from contracting Mesothelioma

So we can agree that if certain, perhaps unwise actions are taken, then the chances of getting cancer will be increased.

Yes, we can both agree with the CDC when they report that homosexual males who engage in anal sex are disproportionately prone to things like anal cancer, HIV/AIDS. (Again, a certain sex organ never ever goes into a certain body cavity :nono: )

Cause and effect but not a judgement from God, right?

Nice try on the asbestos angle Al. The only problem is that those people who breathed it in weren't involved in an immoral sex act. In fact, they didn't know (nor is it likely that the people who invented asbestos knew) the health risks.

Your only argument for criminalising homosexuals is that of a Christian fundamentalist as an adherent to an ancient scripture that you deem to be God's Word.

While God's Word is the basis for all morality and His wisdom should never be ignored, the case has been made from a secular point of view as well Al.

All the stuff about diseases are nothing but added on misinformation that you may think conveniently helps your fundie agenda but is in fact nothing of the kind and hypocrisy.

The facts are the facts when it comes to how deadly homosexual behavior and the lifestyle that goes with it is Al. If I love my neighbor, I'll do everything possible to help him or her find a way out of the homosexual 'deathstyle' and find true freedom through Jesus Christ (and if they're not ready to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior, at least a healthy and happy heterosexual marriage).

As a Christian fundie it's gay people being openly gay which you are presumably compelled to vilify by any means available, even if you are personally entertained by homoerotic images yourself and know full well that any involved health risks are not specific to only gay people.

Are you here just to look at pictures of nekked homosexuals exposing themselves to children at 'gay' pride parades Al? It seems that is the only thing that my fan club can talk about. Try reading some articles, they're very informative.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Speaking of articles:

More words of wisdom from American Family Association's Bryan Fischer:

If Trump is nominee, evangelicals will stay home again

Feb. 1, 2016

If Republicans want a repeat of 2008 and 2012, elections in which millions of evangelicals stayed home and tipped the scale to the Democrat, all they have to do is nominate Donald Trump as their candidate.

There is an emotional fervor behind Mr. Trump in evangelical circles right now, but his support may wane among clear-thinking evangelicals as the glaring light of a presidential campaign makes it evident that his values are further from theirs than either Romney's or McCain's.

The NBC News/Survey Monkey online tracking poll released Feb. January 26 indicates that Trump has 37% support among white evangelical voters while Cruz sits at 20%. Ben Carson and Marco Rubio lag behind at 11% and 10% respectively.

From an objective standpoint, this nearly 2-to-1 margin of Trump over Cruz among evangelicals is difficult to explain. Trump has little to no familiarity with the Bible, as his "Two Corinthians" gaffe makes clear. His favorite Bible verse – "never bend to envy" – is not even in the Bible. He seems to use his childhood copy of the scriptures as little more than a prop, much as Bill Clinton did back in the day when he'd wave a giant Bible in the air on his way out of church during the Lewinsky scandal.

Trump likewise seems to have as little familiarity with the Constitution as he does with the Bible, as revealed by his enthusiastic support for the use of eminent domain to take private property from one citizen against his will only to give it to another. This is what he attempted to do when he tried to bulldoze the home of a widow so he could convert the space into a casino parking lot for limousines. In the Bible this would be called theft, even when done under the color of law, as the story of Jezebel and Naboth's vineyard illustrates. Trump was stopped by the courts, not by moral sensibility or human decency.

In addition, Trump claims to be pro-life, but thinks his rabidly pro-abortion sister would make a great Supreme Court justice. He claims to be a defender of religious liberty, but thinks Kim Davis should have been thrown in jail. He claims to be a supporter of traditional marriage, but has said nothing about what he would do to protect it as an institution. We know nothing about what he would do to protect the rights of Christian bakers and photographers and florists who are being severely punished for supporting natural marriage as he claims to do.

He himself has a quite troubled marital history, the kind of history that gave evangelicals pause with John McCain and was a show-stopper for many with Newt Gingrich. By his own admission, he's never apologized to God for anything, which hardly squares with an evangelical view of man's relationship with the Creator.

The point here is that Trump is even less values-driven than either McCain or Romney, and the unforgiving bright light of a general election will expose this for all to see.

Donald Trump himself has warned us not to believe everything he says to us on the campaign trail. At a rally in Pella, Iowa, over the weekend, Trump said, "When I'm president I'm a different person. I can do anything. I can be the most politically correct person you have ever seen." Yikes.

Read more: http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/160201

 

[alwight]

So we can agree that if certain, perhaps unwise actions are taken, then the chances of getting cancer will be increased.

Yes, we can both agree with the CDC when they report that homosexual males who engage in anal sex are disproportionately prone to things like anal cancer, HIV/AIDS. (Again, a certain sex organ never ever goes into a certain body cavity :nono

Your personal opinion of what is permitted to go where really is beside the point aCW. If some gay men do not behave with safety in mind then that does not reflect on those that do.

Cause and effect but not a judgement from God, right?

Nice try on the asbestos angle Al. The only problem is that those people who breathed it in weren't involved in an immoral sex act. In fact, they didn't know (nor is it likely that the people who invented asbestos knew) the health risks.

What you personally think of as immoral is again beside the point.

Your only argument for criminalising homosexuals is that of a Christian fundamentalist as an adherent to an ancient scripture that you deem to be God's Word.

While God's Word is the basis for all morality and His wisdom should never be ignored, the case has been made from a secular point of view as well Al.

Once again your opinion that your idea of God defines morality rather than humans is not something that has ever been established to me at least.

All the stuff about diseases are nothing but added on misinformation that you may think conveniently helps your fundie agenda but is in fact nothing of the kind and hypocrisy.

The facts are the facts when it comes to how deadly homosexual behavior and the lifestyle that goes with it is Al. If I love my neighbor, I'll do everything possible to help him or her find a way out of the homosexual 'deathstyle' and find true freedom through Jesus Christ (and if they're not ready to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior, at least a healthy and happy heterosexual marriage).

I suggest that you stop considering yourself to be the font of all supernatural knowledge to impose on everyone else and let other people decide for themselves what they think is true and what matters to them.

As a Christian fundie it's gay people being openly gay which you are presumably compelled to vilify by any means available, even if you are personally entertained by homoerotic images yourself and know full well that any involved health risks are not specific to only gay people.

Are you here just to look at pictures of nekked homosexuals exposing themselves to children at 'gay' pride parades Al? It seems that is the only thing that my fan club can talk about. Try reading some articles, they're very informative.

Can you not even say the word "naked" without guilt aCW? If I wanted to go and look at naked pictures of men and homoerotic material then I'm rather sure there are much better places than ToL for that kind of thing, but that isn't what I want to see, otherwise I would.

 

[Arthur Brain]

It's good to know that you would vote for a candidate that would take action to defend the religious liberty and freedom of all of those people of faith (and some who aren't) that have been and still are being persecuted for speaking out against the 'gaystapo' Art.

Wait...you weren't talking about that kind of "freedom and liberty" were you?

I'm talking about freedom and liberty itself aCW, including your right to act like an arse just as much as the next man etc.

Let's just say that when he called me a fag and he took extreme offense to my reply (that his wife doesn't seem to think so), I highly doubt that he thought I was a lesbian.

So that you don't dwell on yet another fixation of yours: No, I never have said I was a woman, never felt like I was a female trapped in a males body, nor anything that comes close to resembling the "T" in the movement that you hold so very close to your pea pickin heart.

Ah yes, I recall that very mature and Christian response on your part and as I remember it wasn't just Granite who was unimpressed. It did land you in one of many excursions to the penalty box after all.

 

[jgarden]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Unnatural practices that cause things like HIV/AIDS and anal cancer on the other hand...


Based on their unhealthy lifestyle, those who engage in homosex* seem to contract various kinds of cancer more than others. But we're not talking about any kind of cancer Al, we're talking about a cancer that happens when someone puts something in a place that it should never ever go ...

If "äCulture Warrior" wants to criminalize "ünhealthy-lifestyles" shouldn't that also extend to smokers, drinkers, fast-food customers and obese Americans.

If we were to criminalize all Americans with "ünhealthy-lifestyles," that would put the majority of the population behind bars!

 

[aCultureWarrior]

If "äCulture Warrior" wants to criminalize "ünhealthy-lifestyles" shouldn't that also extend to smokers, drinkers, fast-food customers and obese Americans.

If we were to criminalize all Americans with "ünhealthy-lifestyles," that would put the majority of the population behind bars!

(Why does jgarden always refer to me in the 3rd person?).

If you were to look at the index on page 1, you'd see that those who engage in homosexual behavior are disproportionately afflicted with various diseases and disorders (cigarette smoking is one of them).

With the recriminalization of homosexuality, these morally confused people would be getting the help that they're so desperately crying out for.

The disease/disorder aspect of homosexuality is one just reason "Why homosexuality MUST be recriminalized!"

And now some lessons in greeting etiquette:

Greeting etiquette from around the world

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Are you here just to look at pictures of nekked homosexuals exposing themselves to children at 'gay' pride parades Al? It seems that is the only thing that my fan club can talk about. Try reading some articles, they're very informative.

Can you not even say the word "naked" without guilt aCW? If I wanted to go and look at naked pictures of men and homoerotic material then I'm rather sure there are much better places than ToL for that kind of thing, but that isn't what I want to see, otherwise I would.

Harold and Maude

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
It's good to know that you would vote for a candidate that would take action to defend the religious liberty and freedom of all of those people of faith (and some who aren't) that have been and still are being persecuted for speaking out against the 'gaystapo' Art.

Wait...you weren't talking about that kind of "freedom and liberty" were you?

I'm talking about freedom and liberty itself aCW, ...

Oh, "freedom and liberty itself" :doh: (yet another profound statement from Art Brain).

 

[jgarden]

(Why does jgarden always refer to me in the 3rd person?).

If you were to look at the index on page 1, you'd see that those who engage in homosexual behavior are disproportionately afflicted with various diseases and disorders (cigarette smoking is one of them).

With the recriminalization of homosexuality, these morally confused people would be getting the help that they're so desperately crying out for.

The disease/disorder aspect of homosexuality is one just reason "Why homosexuality MUST be recriminalized!"

If we were to start criminalizing "morally confused people" in America, I suspect that the majority in "theologyonline.com" would place "aCultureWarrior" at the front of the line!

 

[Arthur Brain]

Oh, "freedom and liberty itself" :doh: (yet another profound statement from Art Brain).

And yet another deflection from you...

par for the course then.

:dunce:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

If we were to start criminalizing "morally confused people" in America, I suspect that the majority in "theologyonline.com" would place "aCultureWarrior" a the front of the line!

There are thoughts and then there are actions jgarden. Which do you think have been and should continue to be criminalized?

Watch the video: direct eye contact, firm handshake. My dad taught me that (yet another plus to having a dad).

 

[alwight]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Are you here just to look at pictures of nekked homosexuals exposing themselves to children at 'gay' pride parades Al? It seems that is the only thing that my fan club can talk about. Try reading some articles, they're very informative.

Can you not even say the word "naked" without guilt aCW? If I wanted to go and look at naked pictures of men and homoerotic material then I'm rather sure there are much better places than ToL for that kind of thing, but that isn't what I want to see, otherwise I would.

Harold and Maude

I really can't help it that you actually want to see pictures of NAKED :shocked: gay men aCW, particularly you being a Christian fundie and all, it must make it very difficult for you.lain:

 

[alwight]

There are thoughts and then there are actions jgarden. Which do you think have been and should continue to be criminalized?

Licentious thoughts that are suppressed nevertheless show which way an innate sexuality would like to go. It really isn't your fault aCW it's just the way it is for you.:think:
The only reason to penalise actions is to protect those who don't want to be/shouldn't be imposed on or harmed, not to prevent any particular actions perhaps in your mind offending your fundie version of God.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
There are thoughts and then there are actions jgarden. Which do you think have been and should continue to be criminalized?

Licentious thoughts that are suppressed nevertheless show which way an innate sexuality would like to go. It really isn't your fault aCW it's just the way it is for you.:think:
The only reason to penalise actions is to protect those who don't want to be/shouldn't be imposed on or harmed, not to prevent any particular actions perhaps in your mind offending your fundie version of God.

Thank you for (once) getting to the gist of the thread Al (in your roundabout God bashing way). In order for there to be laws against a certain action (behavior), there must be some kind of 'harm' done to the individual, to people around him or her, and/or society in general.

I've shown that since the decriminalization of homosexuality, the jackbooted thug 'gaystapo' not only indoctrinates and physically molests children (amongst other things encouraging gender confused children to cross dress and to eventually go through with gender reassignment surgery is a part of physical molestation), permeate, change and eventually destroy societies invaluable institutions, as well as cause physical and emotional harm to the individual engaging in homosexual behavior.

Since the decriminalization of homosexuality, it's been a 'lose-lose' situation for the individual, children and anyone who dares to speak out against the 'gay' agenda, and society in general.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Mark my word: The Establishment has made Marco Rubio their "golden boy".

They're slobbering all over themselves with Rubio's 3rd place finish in Iowa. With Jeb Bush soon to drop out of the race, the pseudo cons will all be backing a Marco Rubio Presidency.

I've talked briefly about Rubio's kind words about homosexuality in past posts, I'll continue to show what Rubio has done and what he stands for as "Rubio mania" grows.

 

[alwight]

Thank you for (once) getting to the gist of the thread Al (in your roundabout God bashing way). In order for there to be laws against a certain action (behavior), there must be some kind of 'harm' done to the individual, to people around him or her, and/or society in general.

I however think that your fundie version of God is fair game to me, if only for the absurdity of the daft beliefs that you and other fundie individuals seem to be able to maintain.
Not God bashing, it's called fundie bashing aCW.
Any real God up there probably despairs of the arrogance, stupidity and idiocy.:doh:

If two people are of age and willingly consent to certain actions that remain between themselves then you sticking your oar in, so to speak, isn't welcome or required, even if you are deluded enough to think that you are actually representing God.

I've shown that since the decriminalization of homosexuality, the jackbooted thug 'gaystapo' not only indoctrinates and physically molests children (amongst other things encouraging gender confused children to cross dress and to eventually go through with gender reassignment surgery is a part of physical molestation), permeate, change and eventually destroy societies invaluable institutions, as well as cause physical and emotional harm to the individual engaging in homosexual behavior.

Gay men dressing up as Nazis whatever is nothing but a parody which I'm not in the least bit worried by. Gender reassignment surgery however is not something that should be taken lightly or something that would ever naturally flow from the wearing of fancy dress or the ability to arrange cushions properly.

Since the decriminalization of homosexuality, it's been a 'lose-lose' situation for the individual, children and anyone who dares to speak out against the 'gay' agenda, and society in general.

Rubbish, these days being gay does not involve being automatically rejected by society, unless that society just happens to be mainly conservative Christian fundamentalists perhaps. lain:

 

[jgarden]

There are thoughts and then there are actions jgarden. Which do you think have been and should continue to be criminalized?

Watch the video: direct eye contact, firm handshake. My dad taught me that (yet another plus to having a dad).

Unfortunately, "aCultureWarrior's" dad spent so much time teaching him about superficial traits like direct eye contact and firm handshakes that he forgot to mention that in a democracy, even "morally confused people" have rights!

Jesus, Himself, was crucified and His followers persecuted for being "morally confused people" - a classic example of tyranny by the majority.

"ACultureWarrior" is nothing more than a modern day Nero intent on making those, whose sexual orientation places them in the minority, as the designated "scapegoats" for society's ills!