Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

[aCultureWarrior]

Now you're tackling porn in this thread?

Was it the article from ex porn star Pamela Anderson that gave it away?

This thread has become a catch all for all of your demented thoughts and whims, even a good amout of ant-Trump rhetoric, which shows how much you support of Hillary.

Pornography is huge in the LGBTQueer movement. Heck, I bet if Donnie becomes President that he'll even be on the cover of Playgirl for his fan base.

 

[patrick jane]

Was it the article from ex porn star Pamela Anderson that gave it away?



Pornography is huge in the LGBTQueer movement. Heck, I bet if Donnie becomes President that he'll even be on the cover of Playgirl for his fan base.

:chuckle:

 

[jgarden]

Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!

Were "aCultureWarrior" half as vociferous in his denounciation of the evils of wealth in American society - a topic that occupies far more space in the Bible than homosexuality!

That, however, would require "aCultureWarrior" to re-examine his assumptions about a society that has been defined by the profit motive - a "dark place" that he deliberately chooses not to explore!

Attacking "homosexuality," rather than American "capitalism," is taking the "line of least resistance" because he perceives it to be a "black and white" topic that can be dealt with "at arms length" - forgoing the possibility of any painful introspection of his core beliefs!

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Trump did interviews.

The ones with Howard Stern are pornographic classics:

WARNING! As with anything related to Donald Trump, there will be foul language and moral depravity.

From playboy to president? Trump’s past crude sex talk collides with his White House bid.

May 10, 2016

Over 15 years, radio shock jock Howard Stern and his buddy Donald Trump periodically carried on like towel-snapping “bros” in a locker room, rating women’s tops and bottoms, debating whether oral sex is “important,” and egging each other on about whether they would like to go to bed with famous women from Cindy Crawford to Diane Sawyer.

“You could’ve gotten her, right?” Stern asked Trump on-air shortly after Princess Diana’s death in 1997. “You could’ve nailed her.”

“I think I could have,” Trump said.

How about singer Mariah Carey? “Would you b**g her?” Stern asked. Trump replied, “I would do it without hesitation.”

Read more (if you can stomach it) :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

I guess so-called "Evangelical leaders" like Jerry Falwell Jr. who are supporting Donald Trump should get their eyes examined if they think that Trump has 'repented'.

http://cdn.freakoutnation.com/uploads/2016/06/Donald-Trump-with-Jerry-Falwell-Jr.jpg

Playboy was known for good interviews and tasteful pictures, not porn

"Tasteful pornographic nudity". "Tasteful misogyny" (where women are treated like a piece of meat).

 

[patrick jane]

Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!

Were "aCultureWarrior" half as vociferous in his denounciation of the evils of wealth in American society - a topic that occupies far more space in the Bible than homosexuality!

That, however, would require "aCultureWarrior" to re-examine his assumptions about a society that has been defined by the profit motive - a "dark place" that he deliberately chooses not to explore!

Attacking "homosexuality," rather than American "capitalism," is taking the "line of least resistance" because he perceives it to be a "black and white" topic that can be dealt with "at arms length" - forgoing the possibility of any painful introspection of his core beliefs!

Excellent post !

 

[patrick jane]

The ones with Howard Stern are pornographic classics:

Hearsay

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!

Were "aCultureWarrior" half as vociferous in his denounciation of the evils of wealth in American society - a topic that occupies far more space in the Bible than homosexuality!

That, however, would require "aCultureWarrior" to re-examine his assumptions about a society that has been defined by the profit motive - a "dark place" that he deliberately chooses not to explore!

Attacking "homosexuality," rather than American "capitalism," is taking the "line of least resistance" because he perceives it to be a "black and white" topic that can be dealt with "at arms length" - forgoing the possibility of any painful introspection of his core beliefs!

Excellent post !

(Have I mentioned that the LGBTQueer movement are socialists as well?).

https://leedssocialistparty.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/10595891_10152172314432038_1296662110_n.jpg

http://www.socialistalternative.org...16/06/National-SA-Pride-Flyer-2016_Header.jpg

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

The ones[interviews] with Howard Stern are pornographic classics:

Hearsay

"Trump’s crude talk on-air with Stern between 1990 and 2005 was part of an image the businessman cultivated as a Manhattan playboy who had so many women that he barely had time to sleep. He was often seen at trendy nightclubs with different women, appeared on the cover of Playboy magazine, wrote in his books about all the women chasing him and publicly boasted about his sex life."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...bed6f8-12fe-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

The more I read about this proud and unrepentant morally depraved barbarian, the more I would like to sit on the civil jury when the case against Donald Trump raping a 13 year old girl goes to court.

 

[jgarden]

(Have I mentioned that the LGBTQueer movement are socialists as well?).

So the "GOSPEL ACCORDING TO "aCULTUREWARRIOR" now asserts that there is a direct link between sexual orientation and one's political-economic ideology!

Does a "same-sex" orientation lead to a socialist/communist ideology
OR
does having a socialist/communist ideology lead to a "same-sex" orientation?

 

[Arthur Brain]

"Tasteful pornographic nudity". "Tasteful misogyny" (where women are treated like a piece of meat).

Do you hold the same for beauty, fashion photography or anything whereby a woman poses without being covered from head to toe? I'm not asking you to endorse Playboy here but if nude or even implied nudity in photography amounts to misogyny in itself then you kinda need to clarify as to why. Let's face it, it's not like you see anything wrong in posting pics of scantily clad men on occasion here...

lain:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

(Have I mentioned that the LGBTQueer movement are socialists as well?).

So the "GOSPEL ACCORDING TO "aCULTUREWARRIOR" now asserts that there is a direct link between sexual orientation and one's political-economic ideology!

Does a "same-sex" orientation lead to a socialist/communist ideology
OR
does having a socialist/communist ideology lead to a "same-sex" orientation?

You're the one that posted an anti capitalism (i.e. anti free enterprise economics) in a thread about homosexuality.

My thoughts on the matter is that the LGBTQueer movement has such an intense HATRED of Judeo-Christian doctrine when it comes to sexuality, that HATRED also includes the Judeo-Christian based free enterprise system.

While I would love to talk more about the LGBTQueer-socialist movement, I know that you're just trolling and won't be back anytime soon to engage in debate.

How about I start off simple (for the simple minded) and post this link from wiki?

Socialism and LGBT rights

The connection between left-leaning ideologies and LGBT rights struggles has a long and mixed history. Prominent socialists who were involved in early struggles for LGBT rights include Edward Carpenter, Oscar Wilde, Harry Hay, Bayard Rustin and Daniel Guérin among others...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_and_LGBT_rights

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
"Tasteful pornographic nudity". "Tasteful misogyny" (where women are treated like a piece of meat).

Do you hold the same for beauty, fashion photography or anything whereby a woman poses without being covered from head to toe? I'm not asking you to endorse Playboy here but if nude or even implied nudity in photography amounts to misogyny in itself then you kinda need to clarify as to why. Let's face it, it's not like you see anything wrong in posting pics of scantily clad men on occasion here...

lain:

The topic was about Donald Trump and pornographic Playboy magazine. Trump supporter patrick jane said that Playboy magazine was known for "tasteful pictures, not porn".

Is your fellow sexual anarchist correct and I'm wrong when I say that these women who pose nude in Playboy are being used as a piece of meat, but in reality are being admired for their 'tasteful poses'?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I see that Donald Trump is courting the black vote. Trump will be visiting the church of Bishop Wayne T. Jackson in Michigan soon.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...ump-court-black-vote-detroit-church/89527702/

I'm wondering if LGBTQ supporter Trump saw this video of Jackson laying on a couple of men and said:

"That's the church for me!"

 

[jgarden]

Socialism/Communism has also been closely connecyed with Jews - are we to assume that they all had an "intense HATRED of Judeo-Christian doctrine?"
The reality is that "socialism" is an integral part of contemporary modern Israel.

Enlightenment and Emancipation
********************************************
Moses Mendelssohn - leftist philosophic roots in the Jewish Enlightenment, or Haskalah,
Ludwig Börne - republican ideals in the aftermath of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars
- many Jews supported the American Revolution of 1776, the French Revolution of 1789, and the European Revolutions of 1848; while Jews in England tended to vote for the Liberal Party, which had led the parliamentary struggle for Jewish Emancipation (“the liberal Jewish compromise”)

Emergence of a Jewish working class
*************************************************
- General Jewish Labor Union – was formed in Lithuania, Poland, and Russia in 1897
- distinctive Jewish socialist organizations spread across the Jewish Pale of Settlement in the Russian Empire
- socialist Zionist political parties ie, Ber Borochov’s Poale Zion)
- socialist non-Zionist political movements calling for a Jewish national homeland
-autonomism - calling for non-territorial national rights for Jews in multinational empires
- folkism -advocated by Simon Dubnow - celebrated the Jewish culture of the Yiddish-speaking masses
- eastern European Jews migrated West from the 1880s and they brought their "leftist" ideologies to these growing Jewish communities - London’s East End, Paris's Pletzl, New York’s Lower East Side, Buenos Aires
- American Jewish socialist movements - "The Forward" (Yiddish-language daily), the International Ladies' Garment Workers,' the Amalgamated Clothing Workers
- important figures - Rose Schneiderman, Abraham Cahan, Morris Winchevsky, David Dubinsky
- late 19th and early 20th centuries - Jews played a major role in the Social Democratic parties of Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary and Poland
- Enzo Traverso introduced the term "Judeo-Marxism" to describe the innovative forms of Marxism associated with these Jewish socialists

Radical Jews in Central and Western Europe
*************************************************
Martin Buber - drew on Hassidism in articulating his anarchist philosophy
Gershom Scholem - an anarchist and a kabbalah scholar
Walter Benjamin - influenced by Marxism and Jewish messianism
Gustav Landauer - a religious Jew and a libertarian communist
Jacob Israël de Haan - combined socialism with Haredi Judaism
Bernard Lazare - leftist libertarian and a passionately Jewish Zionist
Karl Marx - an ancestrally Jewish; his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723


Jewish involvement in Russian Communism
************************************************
- antisemitism in the Russian Empire led to a disproportionate number of Jews attracted to "leftist" movements (anarchists, Bundists, Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, Trudoviks, Constitutional Democrats)
- Jewish Bolshevik party leaders included Grigory Zinoviev, Moisei Uritsky, Lev Kamenev, Yakov Sverdlov, Grigory Sokolnikov, and Leon Trotsky
- 5.21% of the Bolshevik Party in 1922 was Jewish
- 5 of the 23 ruling Council of People's Commissars between 1923 and 1930 were Jewish
- Central Executive Committee of the Congress of Soviets (1929) was 402 ethnic Russians, 95 Ukrainians, 55 Jews, 26 Latvians, 13 Poles, and 12 Germans
- Stalin in 1952 allegedly said privately that "every Jew is a potential spy for the United States"

Socialist Zionism and the Israeli left
*******************************************
Marxist Ber Borochov - developed socialist Zionism which developed into a powerful force in the Yishuv, the Jewish settlement in Palestine.
Poale Zion - the Histadrut labour union and the Mapai party played a major part in the campaign for an Israeli state
Ben-Gurion - socialist, founder and first prime minister of Israel
Golda Meir - socialist, founder and prime minister of Israel
Kibbutz Movement - an experiment in practical socialism
Israeli Labour Party - have been in power in Israel for significant periods since 1948

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_left

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Socialism/Communism has also been closely connecyed with Jews - are we to assume that "God's Chosen People" have an "intense HATRED of Judeo-Christian doctrine?"

Secular Jews do.

For instance homosexual activist/pedophile*/founder of the homosexual group "Act Up!" Larry Kramer:

*Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, “Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist”: “In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/#VmYRe60zq0Ha6FuE.99

 

[Arthur Brain]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
"Tasteful pornographic nudity". "Tasteful misogyny" (where women are treated like a piece of meat).




The topic was about Donald Trump and pornographic Playboy magazine. Trump supporter patrick jane said that Playboy magazine was known for "tasteful pictures, not porn".

Is your fellow sexual anarchist correct and I'm wrong when I say that these women who pose nude in Playboy are being used as a piece of meat, but in reality are being admired for their 'tasteful poses'?

You haven't remotely answered my question aCW. To give you a bit of help once again; are fashion models who make a living just to be regarded as 'pieces of meat' in your view? Actresses who model for magazines in what some would consider 'provocative' poses, ie posing in lingerie etc? Where do you draw the line? You'd deny many a woman a career if you outlawed modelling as a career including nude if you equate that with porn itself. Do you?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
The topic was about Donald Trump and pornographic Playboy magazine. Trump supporter patrick jane said that Playboy magazine was known for "tasteful pictures, not porn".

Is your fellow sexual anarchist correct and I'm wrong when I say that these women who pose nude in Playboy are being used as a piece of meat, but in reality are being admired for their 'tasteful poses'?

You haven't remotely answered my question aCW. To give you a bit of help once again; are fashion models who make a living just to be regarded as 'pieces of meat' in your view? Actresses who model for magazines in what some would consider 'provocative' poses, ie posing in lingerie etc? Where do you draw the line? You'd deny many a woman a career if you outlawed modelling as a career including nude if you equate that with porn itself. Do you?

I try not to get too involved in the anal retentive posts of drama queen Art Brain, but I will answer this one:

Yes, I believe that Presidential candidate Donald Trump views his slut of a wife (and all women that he finds attractive) as a "piece of meat".

Spoiler

In general? If the purpose of the pictures are to create lust, then yes, it would be considered pornographic.

Now you can return to your latest issue of Playgirl magazine.

 

[jgarden]

... Have I mentioned that the LGBTQueer movement are socialists as well?).

... My thoughts on the matter is that the LGBTQueer movement has such an intense HATRED of Judeo-Christian doctrine when it comes to sexuality, that HATRED also includes the Judeo-Christian based free enterprise system.

David Ben-Gurion and Golda Meir were both socialists, founders and prime ministers of Israel.

The Kibbutz Movement is an experiment in practical socialism and an integral part of Israel's social fabric.

Based on "aCultureWarrior's" stated logic the sexual orientations of Ben-Gurion, Meir and members of Israel's Kibbutz Movement would all be suspect!

His assertion that our Judeo-Christian heritage is based on the free enterprise system attempts to connect 3 different traditions with timelines that don't coincide - capitalism and the "free enterprise system" spans a few centuries at best, Christianity originated 2000 years ago and Judaism encompasses 4000 years of recorded history.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Boy jgarden, at least an hour of copying and pasting, and for what?

 

[Arthur Brain]

I try not to get too involved in the anal retentive posts of drama queen Art Brain, but I will answer this one:

Yes, I believe that Presidential candidate Donald Trump views his slut of a wife (and all women that he finds attractive) as a "piece of meat".

Except you aren't answering. You're just being a drama queen yourself so quit with the soap box/opera deflective crap and just answer my question as directed to you.

In general? If the purpose of the pictures are to create lust, then yes, it would be considered pornographic.

Now you can return to your latest issue of Playgirl magazine.

So, as above, where is the line drawn? A beautiful fashion model posing in a bikini? A dress above the ankle?

And jeez dude, why don't you just stop with the lame innuendo crap? You're supposed to be a Christian man so why are you resorting to sleaze and innuendo when there's no place or even excuse for it?

:idunno: