Who are those deceived of whom you speak, LA? Moses? Paul referred to Moses' Abrahamic paternal distinction in Galatians 4:22. Didn't Abraham sire progeny via Keturah? Paul furthered Moses' Abrahamic paternal distinction (Genesis 24:1, 2, 3, 4) in Romans 9:6, 7, 8, 9, 10 that Jesus illuminated in John 8:37 KJV. John the Baptist affirmed this Abrahamic paternal distinction in Luke 3:2, 7, 8, 9, even Stephen in Acts 7:7, 8 who was impeccably fluent in the Books of Moses. Is Jesus the Son of God because you have some 'utteral' inkling? Because you acknowledge Jesus and His disciples, even Paul, performed healing miracles? Those were not the ordinary 'street healings', LA. Jesus was performing genetic reconstructions, hasn't been done since those days.
Jesus referred to Isaiah 6:9, 10, 11, 12 when Jesus delineated a multitude believer from a disciple in Matthew 13:10, 12, 13, 14, 15, with His path to discipleship illuminated in John 8:12-47 particularly in John 8:30 KJV, John 8:31 KJV, and John 8:32 KJV. I kinda get the impression familiarity with the OT is paramount to understanding what was going on in Jesus' day, and who all the players were. Do you have any explicit knowledge of those two Divine testimonies of the two Divine witnesses to Jesus' Divine Paternity (John 8:17, 18) found in those verses? I suggest such 'utter' truth is highly valued as Jesus mentioned distinguishing a believer from a disciple speaking exclusively to His disciples regarding believers being 'converted' into disciples in Matthew 13:15 KJV. His value of being "converted" is discerned in Matthew 13:16 KJV, Matthew 13:17 KJV.
Meanwhile... I keep hearing this tongues gift, and can't get a straight answer on the aforementioned topics by those who allege to possess the Holy Ghost. What did Ham do, LA (Genesis 9:22 KJV)? The answer is corroborated in Leviticus 18:8 KJV, Leviticus 20:11 KJV, Deuteronomy 22:30 KJV, and Deuteronomy 27:20 KJV... and God is the same tomorrow, today, and in Genesis. Sure it matters! Ham and his antediluvian wife were grandparents to Nimrod, King of Babel (Genesis 10:6, 7, 8, 9, 10), the first kingdom mentioned was "Babble", confusion.
I've heard PLENTY of babble in my walk, LA. God speaks to His people through His Word, a great place to delve with unbridled spiritual curiosity, an ongoing adventure. Is there such a creature as a disciple who does NOT speak in tongues, then? What did Ham do, LA? Who was Paul specifically referring to in Roman's 9:6, 7, 8, 9, 10? Those who instigated the crucifixion were NOT Israelites who were in bondage in Egypt (John 8:33 KJV). What is the OT ancestry of those alleged 'Jews' who instigated the crucifixion (Revelation 2:9, 3:9)?
Those who doubted only doubted Jesus' miracles publicly to mislead the 'lost sheep of the house of Israel.' Think about it: Romans 9:6 KJV. Who exactly misled the Israelites, and instigated the crucifixion? Listen again to Nicodemus' words in John 3:1, 2. And you're going to suggest speaking in tongues is profitable? How about proffering your divine illumination from one of those above scenarios, then.
Feed His sheep, LA
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Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Act 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
1Co 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
1Co 14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
LA