Why Don't the Liberals Want a Wall?

[musterion]

Rand Paul might like that. I don't think you could classify that opinion. Its an opinion that a good argument could be made for. Good arguments can be made against it too.

My choice would be to draw down our contribution so much that the Europeans would be forced to either make up the difference with their own increased contributions or watch NATO fold. If we decided to contribute no more than Germany, could they really complain? That would put the ball in their court to fund it.

Nope. Been going on about 70 years now. Yes, it's an industry unto itself. Yes, there are mucho vested interests. But Europe has enough troubles on their doorstep that I don't want us getting entangled in their shortsighted idiocies again. They never learn for long, so twice (three times if you include the Cold War) is more than enough. Drop them cold like a bad habit.

 

[drbrumley]

Ahhhh, the fake RINO and the fascist, good friends, two peas in a pod.

Case in point....:loser:

 

[musterion]

Libertarian. But the drugs are in another room.

I'll stay right here on the couch, then.

 

[Catholic Crusader]

Case in point....:loser:

You and Low Energy Jeb should date. LOL

RINO ONE and RINO TWO

 

[drbrumley]

Libertarian. But the drugs are in another room.

There are libertarians who oppose drugs you know...

 

[drbrumley]

Did he/she say something..

 

[Stripe]

There are libertarians who oppose drugs you know...

:shocked:

 

[drbrumley]

:shocked:

yeah, I didn't think you got that memo

 

[WizardofOz]

Here's a question for y'all.

I believe Trump should immediately begin pulling all U.S. troops out of Europe, especially from Germany. Ship home all material we can use and turn the bases over to the the Euros. Which does this position make me?

a. Conservative
b. Neoconservative
c. Libertarian

Absolutely C

I support this on all foreign fronts unequivocally.

 

[drbrumley]

The separation between a libertarian and a conservative is the role of government in our everyday lives. The libertarian usually doesn't want government in social issues. They believe those issues deal with family as it was pre Samuel as found in the bible.

 

[drbrumley]

And I might add there is a difference between libertarians and libertines.

 

[User Name]

Here's a question for ya'll:

Why didn't Trump get funding for the wall during the first 2 years of his administration?

A. Trump never really cared about building the wall in the first place, but Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh forced him to push for it now.
B. Trump really wanted the wall all along, but he just procrastinated in trying to get funding until now for some stupid reason.
C. Trump wanted to wait to demand funding until the Dems won back control of the House after the mid-term elections so he could use it as a wedge issue in Congress.
D. (Provide your own answer here.)

 

[drbrumley]

Here's a question for ya'll:

Why didn't Trump get funding for the wall during the first 2 years of his administration?

A. Trump never really cared about building the wall in the first place, but Ann Coulter forced him to act now.
B. Trump really wanted the wall all along, but he just procrastinated in trying to get funding until now for some stupid reason.
C. Trump wanted to wait to demand funding until the Dems won back control of the House after the mid-term election so he could use it as a wedge issue in Congress.
D. (Provide your own answer here.)

all plausible.....

 

[WizardofOz]

Here's a question for ya'll:

Why didn't Trump get funding for the wall during the first 2 years of his administration?

A. Trump never really cared about building the wall in the first place, but Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh forced him to push for it now.
B. Trump really wanted the wall all along, but he just procrastinated in trying to get funding until now for some stupid reason.
C. Trump wanted to wait to demand funding until the Dems won back control of the House after the mid-term elections so he could use it as a wedge issue in Congress.
D. (Provide your own answer here.)

Mostly C but A was also definitely a factor.

 

[WizardofOz]

The separation between a libertarian and a conservative is the role of government in our everyday lives. The libertarian usually doesn't want government in social issues. They believe those issues deal with family as it was pre Samuel as found in the bible.

Yup. Both Democrats and Republicans are primarily authoritarian, interventionist, big spending statists. They not only want to control US citizens, they also want to control other nations by manipulating them militarily or financially. Really, they are two sides of the same coin.

But by saying so I get labeled a lib or a fascist, etc by people still buying into the two-party con.

 

[The Barbarian]

President Trump’s base of supporters remains on his side and even supportive of his temporary deal with Democrats to end the partial government shutdown, but are warning the White House that they will mutiny if the border wall isn’t built.

In a new poll of 2,700 Trump voters, nearly half would abandon him if “he fails to secure border security funds,” said a new survey by Ear to the Ground, a project by The Frontier Lab.

“The grassroots activists represented in this survey were fundamental to the president’s election. While they are still with him today, it appears the president better build the wall or his support will significantly suffer,” said Mark Meckler, president of Citizens for Self-Governance.

“Politicians have a habit of not listening. Hopefully the president will keep his ear to the ground,” added Meckler.

The survey of Trump 2016 primary and general election voters shows that he is at a problem point in his presidency.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-the-wall-isnt-built-faces-43-drop-in-support

This probably means we're going to see something truly deranged coming up.

 

[Zeke]

Why would anyone not want a wall?

Here is an example of the horror stories being told about women's trips to the border:

Well, there are fragments of the story, which we were able to gather as we traveled along the U.S.-Mexico border. We, for example, visited a shelter in northern Mexico - in Nogales, Sonora, the Mexican state of Sonora - where one woman said her entire trip north was effectively a sexual assault. She was brought across the border by a man under false pretenses, taken to the city of Atlanta and, she says, used as a prostitute for years. Now, she's back in northern Mexico. That's where we found her.​

https://www.npr.org/2014/03/23/2934...ies-of-sexual-assault-against-female-migrants​

If a wall is built all of this abuse of women and children at the border will cease overnight!

Would just one person answer the following question for me?:

What is so bad about a wall when compared to all the evil which is resulting from the lack of a wall?

The left, right, along with lethargic centrists have no effect on corporate policies, you have been programmed to participate in the delusion of choice in theses plantation skits, it's not reality in the mind of Christ where no walls exist, only fictional dummies believe they do.

 

[jgarden]

Why Don't the Liberals Want a Wall?

Apparently "Liberals" find themselves in good company - Trump's own appointed heads of the NAS, CIA and FBI failed to even mention the Mexican border as a concern in their annual "threats" assessments!"

 

[musterion]

There are libertarians who oppose drugs you know...

I'd like to meet both of them.

 

[ok doser]

There are libertarians who oppose drugs you know...

betcha most libertarians oppose availability of "recreational" drugs to children

get them to answer honestly why they do, and their position on availability of "recreational" drugs for adults unravels