Most of this does not apply to the majority of Christians on TOL.
From what I see, you are fighting with her as much as she is with you. Do you want the thread closed?
Why did you become a Christian.
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Most of this does not apply to the majority of Christians on TOL.
From what I see, you are fighting with her as much as she is with you. Do you want the thread closed?
Is that just the doctrine of election?
As far as you can see? Well go and take another look. The only interaction I have is when she visits my threads.
This thread has everything to do with people on here, but most of them don't realise it.
Nang
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Why? Because God willed and worked it.
I did not seek Him, nor willed to find any kind of religion.
He sought me, while I remained dead in my trespasses and sins, and raised me to new life; gifting me with faith in Jesus Christ and granting me repentance from sin.
God's Truth
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He believes in election, and so do you, and in the other thread you called him satanic.
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So why were the police questioning you? Did someone call the police on you for insulting them and calling them wicked and condemned? Did they want to arrest you, or did he let you go as some "special" kinda person?
Lon
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"Why did I become a Christian?"
John 15:16; 6:65 Isaiah 41:13,14 Ephesians 2:4,5,8-10 1 Corinthians 4:7 Romans 9:16 Acts 16:14
If I am reading you right: "By the will of God."
"Christian" is one of those words that causes frustration/confusion: for instance someone unregenerate could call t{hemselves "Christian," just as some who were not Israel by faith, claimed to be Israel. Paul stated, not all Israel is/was Israel. Romans 9:6 So similarly, I think "Christian" needs to be defined as to what is meant Acts 11:26 because "not all Christians are (regenerate) Christians" the Apostle Paul might say.
John 15:16; 6:65 Isaiah 41:13,14 Ephesians 2:4,5,8-10 1 Corinthians 4:7 Romans 9:16 Acts 16:14
If I am reading you right: "By the will of God."
"Christian" is one of those words that causes frustration/confusion: for instance someone unregenerate could call t{hemselves "Christian," just as some who were not Israel by faith, claimed to be Israel. Paul stated, not all Israel is/was Israel. Romans 9:6 So similarly, I think "Christian" needs to be defined as to what is meant Acts 11:26 because "not all Christians are (regenerate) Christians" the Apostle Paul might say.
God's Truth
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I stumbled onto it. More precise , i was drowning , i grabbed onto the only thing available to save me and it was Jesus. "pisteuo"
The term christian that should be Messianist was first used in Antioch. It is said,"And the disciples were called Messianists (Christians) first in Antioch".
"The disciples were first called" etc ....a disciple simply means "someone who learns from" and in those times it would have been a Rabbi they learned from. Messiah was called Rabbi. Those who learn inwardly from Messiah, who have the anointing that teaches them all things, are disciples of Messiah. Those that learn from books, creeds and parrot fashion are not disciples. They have outward means and knowledge, but not the inward teaching and understanding.
Lon
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Appreciate the clarification on this. Thank you.
To me, a false dichotomy: If a book, or your posts in thread, follow Christ, there is no reasonable assessment that suggests what you (in this example as a book, creed, parrot, or internet post) are saying something false, or that I am saying anything false for repeating it. Rather, we test the creeds, books, parroting, and/or internet post to see if it stands up to scriptural scrutiny. There is way too much baby being thrown out with the bathwater and imho, not really enough time or talent for everyone to reinvent his/her own wheel. As you are attesting: The Holy Spirit is able to burn dross along the way. I would agree with you, if it came to it, that reading scripture is of first import. I'm merely saying that creeds or your post here in thread, etc. are not bad in and of themselves. For instance: Do you despise Spurgeon? C.S. Lewis? Etc.? I'd think not. Take for example, any particular point you may disagree with an author of your choosing. Those with the mind of Christ already know the point of disagreement as Christ is leading them. I yet appreciate, however I may disagree on a point or another, C.S. Lewis' mind for Christ, testimony, and apologetic, yet I only follow him 'as he follows Christ.' (not to get too far off topic of the OP nor trying to follow your ideas too far from it other than as it pertains to the OP in whatever way you've brought up the points). -Lon
I was drafted.
oatmeal
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I met the requirements of Romans 10:9 and am therefore saved, ie, have received the gift of eternal life and have endeavored to put on the mind of Christ so that my life better represents the man who lived and died and was raised by God from the dead and was seated on the right hand of God ... so that I live worthily of God and his son
glorydaz
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Why don't you go away? This thread isn't for you, and you know it. :troll:
None of the above in my circumstances because I was not even looking, though I always had a belief in "God" before my initial conversion, (during my high school years). I was walking home from school one day and a messenger named John Elias came along side and preached to me the Gospel of repentance from the epistle to the Romans. Immediately upon hearing it I knew in my soul it was the truth, (I even skipped for joy the remainder of the way home from school, never got home so fast in all my life, and probably looked like a fool skipping along at the age of sixteen). The next day John led me to and got me involved in a congregation that taught the Word, (which just so happened to be on the way to and from school). I only knew him for several weeks and then he was gone, he just disappeared from my life in the midst of all the joy and the sudden new change of path and journey; I had never been to his house, never knew where he lived, never met his parents if he had any, and actually never really knew anything about him at all. About twenty seven years later, after all that time thinking myself to be "saved" and "a Christian", I was born from above in my darkest hour. Thanks be to John Elias for the preaching but thanks be to Elohim Most High in the End; for no one can keep alive his soul in that hour. I indeed know what grace is, and I do know the grace of Elohim, and I know we are delivered by nothing but the grace of Elohim; and I also know the terror of the Master. Remember Lot's wife.
None of the above in my circumstances because I was not even looking, though I always had a belief in "God" before my initial conversion, (during my high school years). I was walking home from school one day and a messenger named John Elias came along side and preached to me the Gospel of repentance from the epistle to the Romans. Immediately upon hearing it I knew in my soul it was the truth, (I even skipped for joy the remainder of the way home from school, never got home so fast in all my life, and probably looked like a fool skipping along at the age of sixteen). The next day John led me to and got me involved in a congregation that taught the Word, (which just so happened to be on the way to and from school). I only knew him for several weeks and then he was gone, he just disappeared from my life in the midst of all the joy and the sudden new change of path and journey; I had never been to his house, never knew where he lived, never met his parents if he had any, and actually never really knew anything about him at all. About twenty seven years later, after all that time thinking myself to be "saved" and "a Christian", I was born from above in my darkest hour. Thanks be to John Elias for the preaching but thanks be to Elohim Most High in the End; for no one can keep alive his soul in that hour. I indeed know what grace is, and I do know the grace of Elohim, and I know we are delivered by nothing but the grace of Elohim; and I also know the terror of the Master. Remember Lot's wife.
Thanks Daqq that sounds genuine and I can relate to both your experiences. One false and then the true. One outwardly and one in power inwardly. Where have you been getting your teaching from? How long is it since you were saved?
Nang
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Perhaps the Mormon Church?