popsthebuilder
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Nope.
You just contradicted yourself again.
You said there are NONE who seek GOD.
These are your own words;
"There is no such thing as a seeker, avid or otherwise."
Liar
Who will answer my questions?
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You just contradicted yourself again.
You said there are NONE who seek GOD.
These are your own words;
"There is no such thing as a seeker, avid or otherwise."
Liar
popsthebuilder
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popsthebuilder
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What don't you get about giving up everything doesn't include trade knowledge which is imprinted in memory.
Can you show a verse or two they says we are to give up working. I'm pretty sure literally walking away from literally everything in one's life constitutes giving up everything. How does one give up intellectual property in the form of trade knowledge, and why would you think it is called for when scripture says we must work to eat?
Still waiting for am actual acriputrally based response within context, or at least some sort of rebuttal.
How obnoxious can you become? I haven't contradicted myself, but I was forced to clarify what I was conveying because you always twist the scriptures to fit unsound doctrine.
None seek Elohim unto salvation. Those that are saved SEEK Him. No contradiction between that and what I initially and have always stated. You are insinuating that I have changed my stance...hell will freeze over before that could happen.
You are more set in trying to prove me wrong than contemplating the truth.
The only thing imprinted in your mind is the sinful and corrupt nature of Adam.
"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake".
Everytime you post you only succeed in showing your blindness in regard to the scriptures and their application.
marhig
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Oh you have made sure? You can't make sure of anything only God makes sure, and only God gives eternal life no matter how much some believe that they have it by saying "I believe" with their mouths yet living contrary to the will of God!
oatmeal
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Does the video answer my questions?
I have a class that takes about 30 hours to participate in that could answer all of yours. You interested?
Or maybe you could get to the point and tell us to that one question of mine.
You don't have to beat around the bush, you can answer directly.
popsthebuilder
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So whenever you said there is no such thing as a seeker, avid or otherwise; what you actually meant was that there are seekers avid and otherwise?
Got it.
So you just misrepresented the truth then? You didn't intentionally lie?
I'm not buying it, but whatever.
And no; the truth is one of the few things I still fight for.
popsthebuilder
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Blind assumption isn't even worth my time.
Original sin is a false doctrine.
We aren't born sinners; societal norms mold us into them.
popsthebuilder
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Nonsense.
I know the scripture well, and too know how you remove nearly all meaning of scripture from its intended meaning into something for your own little benefit.
I didn't persecute or revile you. And I surely haven't said any false evil about you.
All my words about you are based on your own words that you use in an attempt to boost your placement above others.
popsthebuilder
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Oatmeal;
I apologize for moving your thread off topic.
I'm done.
I didn't mean to deviate from the topic at hand.
peace
Seems as if you can't grasp it:
The unregenerate do not and cannot seek that which is good, just and true.
They do however get ensnared by Satan as you have been and are set in the broad way that leads to destruction.
"There is a way that seems right to a man that leads to destruction".
marhig
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Take no notice, if he had the heart that is so sure he knows, then he'd have the love of God coming from his mouth, but his lips are only full of hatred for everyone who doesn't agree with the gospel of truster. He's full of condemation and hate fuelled rants, reviling those who believe it's right to obey God and live by his will. Whilst setting himself on his pedestal of pride and self glorification. This isn't the way of God, God looks for a humility coming from a humble heart, one who loves him more than anything and cares for others as themselves, not hating and looking down on them as truster does.
Hopefully he'll get his eyes opened one day, and come down a peg or two and stop thinking that he's above everyone else!
You are proof of original sin. You are proof that man is unable to seek that which is good, just and true. You are proof of spiritual death that the sons of Adam inherit.
This oft repeated verse fits you, so wear it:
That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
marhig
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Yes and that's not living by the will of God and obeying him. And truly following Jesus.
The Broadway is the way of the world and is death and darkness, the way of Jesus Christ is the way to life and light in God!
Have you seen it says that there is a way that seems right to a man? And that's the way that leads to destruction?
Man's way is self self self, putting themselves first, but the way of Christ Jesus is putting God first. Man's way leads to distruction.
marhig
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Ahhhh so you can see me then?
popsthebuilder
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John: 6. 26. Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. 27. Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29. Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. 30. They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? 33. For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34. Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. 37. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. 41. The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. 42. And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? 44. No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. 48. I am that bread of life. 49. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. 51. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. 63. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 66. From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. 70. Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? 71. He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
This is the most direct. What is happening? There it is in the visual for you. The Father poured his wrath out on the Son.
See Psalm 22 to know why he called out Why have you forsaken me.