YOU brought up ISHMAEL.
YOU prove he was a Gentile.
YOU said he was.
Do you believe the Ishmaelites are Gentiles, yes or no, GT?
All I'm asking for is a yes or a no. I will give you my reasoning for MY position afterwards.
YOU brought up ISHMAEL.
YOU prove he was a Gentile.
YOU said he was.
Do you believe the Ishmaelites are Gentiles, yes or no, GT?
All I'm asking for is a yes or a no. I will give you my reasoning for MY position afterwards.
You were telling this LIE and I was correcting your FAULTY understanding.
There are plenty of GENTILES (i.e., non-Jews) that ARE BLOOD RELATED to Abraham.
YOU SAID THEY WERE GENTILES. You prove it. You brought Ishmael into it as a straw man.
You are not speaking the truth. I said Jews are those blood related to Abraham AND OBEY THE LAW.
You wrote that. Change it that's not what you believe because it's WRONG!GENTILES ARE NOT BLOOD RELATED to ABRAHAM.
The Gentiles COULD come into the covenant and be as Jews.
ANYONE who wanted to be in a covenant with God had to do the things Moses told them to do.
You are amazingly dense.... A GENTILE is a NON-JEW.
Ishmael is a BLOOD RELATIVE of Abraham and he is a NON-JEW. In other words, Ishmael is a BLOOD RELATIVE of Abraham that is a GENTILE (by definition).
YOU SAID THEY WERE GENTILES.
You prove it.
You brought Ishmael into it as a straw man.
You wrote that. Change it that's not what you believe because it's WRONG!
Correct. And now I'm asking you what you think of my statement. Do you think my statement is correct?
I will, AFTER you answer my question.
I'll even make it multiple choice for you, GT
Are Ishmaelites Gentiles, ie, non-Jews?
A) Yes, Ishmaelites are Gentiles
B) No, Ishmaelites are Jews
C) I don't know
D) I don't want to be shown that I'm wrong so blablablabla! I can't hear you and you need to prove your position with scripture!
Correct. And now I'm asking you what you think of my statement. Do you think my statement is correct?
I will, AFTER you answer my question.
I'll even make it multiple choice for you, GT
Are Ishmaelites Gentiles, ie, non-Jews?
A) Yes, Ishmaelites are Gentiles
B) No, Ishmaelites are Jews
C) I don't know
D) I don't want to be shown that I'm wrong so blablablabla! I can't hear you and you need to prove your position with scripture!
WHO IS DENSE?
GOD SAYS through ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and Jacob.
THOSE ARE THE BLOOD RELATED AND THEY OBEYED.
Now prove with SCRIPTURE and quotes from me saying any differently.
Give the scripture that says ABRAHAM WAS a GENTILE.
And I'll give the scripture that says he was a HEBREW.
Give the scriptures that say Ishmael was a Gentile.
Why would I?
Did Ishmael obey the old law? No? Then he is not a Jew, according to your own position. That, by the definition of Gentile that you yourself provided in post #139, makes him a Gentile.
Straw man nonsense.
I said a JEW IS A BLOOD RELATIVE to Abraham AND ONE WHO OBEYS THE LAW.
You were telling this LIE and I was correcting your FAULTY understanding.
There are plenty of GENTILES (i.e., non-Jews) that ARE BLOOD RELATED to Abraham.
So then you would agree that even though Ishmael was a blood relative to Abraham (his oldest son), because of the fact that Ishmael did not obey the Law makes him a non-Jew.
A non-Jew is, according to the definition you posted in Post #139, a Gentile.
No?
Gentiles are not blood related to Abraham.
Show where a person related to Abraham is called a Gentile.
Use scripture to prove what you say.
Gentile (from Latin gentilis 'of or belonging to the same people or nation', from gēns 'clan; tribe; people, family') is a term that usually means 'someone who is not a Jew'. Other groups that claim Israelite heritage sometimes use the term to describe outsiders.https://www.google.com/search?q=Gent...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Anyone who can see can see that I said a Jew is one blood related to Abraham and obeyed the law.
A Gentile is one NOT blood related to Abraham and does NOT obey the old law.
For instance, a Samaritan is a blood related to Abraham but did not obey God.