I saw "The Monster that Ate Minnesota" with Efrem Goober, Jr.-Goob's son.
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I saw "The Monster that Ate Minnesota" with Efrem Goober, Jr.-Goob's son.
Why hang out at all?
Is that like "the basic truth?" "Basically saved....alive...pregnant......?"
Just what is this "basic gospel?" Unpack it for us wackos.
vfirestormv
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Glad you're not the judge then, brother.
Don't call me brother until I know you're truly a believer!
vfirestormv
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Well, let me give it to you then. I believe in salvation by grace alone through faith alone, apart from any works, rituals, rites,etc., in Christ alone. Where we have disagreements at are who and where the church started, which has no bearing on either of our salvation's. It is a big deal mind you, as you can see in me and I can see in you. But no bearing on salvation, none the less. Now, if you tell me you do not believe in grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone, then I will quit calling you brother.
I would suggest, that if I watched you sometime when we're singing "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms," or "Acapella," at some "Burger King" "church" some day, that you won't even know the words-you'll just moves your lips..
Hi , and here it is !!
#1 , Man can n0t save him self as he is spiritually dead as 1 Cor 2:14 , because the NATURAL MAN , it is Foolishness for the BIBLE is scriptually discerned !
#2 , Paul preached ! Acts 16:13 !!
# 3 , God OPENS the Heart , Acts 13:14 !
#4 Then Rom 10:1o for with HEART man believeth unto Righeousness !!
#5 , As in Eph 2:8 and Faith is the Gift of God , and it knocks , Baptism , and Works and Language and Calvinism up side down , does it not ?
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Hi , and here it is !!
#1 , Man can n0t save him self as he is spiritually dead as 1 Cor 2:14 , because the NATURAL MAN , it is Foolishness for the BIBLE is scriptually discerned !
#2 , Paul preached ! Acts 16:13 !!
# 3 , God OPENS the Heart , Acts 16:14 !
#4 Then Rom 10:1o for with the HEART man believeth unto Righeousness !!
#5 , As in Eph 2:8 and Faith is the Gift of God , and it knocks , Baptism , and Works and Language and Calvinism up side down , does it not ?
dan p
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People's minds are corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ 2 Corinthians 11:3 KJV. Salvation is so simple. Trust the Lord believing what Christ died for you and be saved 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV).
Pretty simple. :up:
That is the end result. You have to know how to get there. I have yet to see you post the good news (gospel) of your salvation. And you have been asked a few times and have said a few things that don't cut the mustard. He is not "coming into your heart", that is unbiblical. Paul is very explicit about what salvation is.
The Lord Jesus Christ died for sin in our place. He was raised again for our justification. When we trust what he did, we move from death to life. We are seen as crucified and raised up with him by the Father. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit.
It has nothing to do with what we do or don't do. Anybody that takes away or adds to conditions is outside the faith. Paul said let them go to hell for perverting the simplicity that is the gospel.
It has nothing to do with what we do or don't do. Anybody that takes away or adds to conditions is outside the faith. Paul said let them go to hell for perverting the simplicity that is the gospel.
vfirestormv
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How is it the end result? It is all of it. I was drawn to Him by the Holy Spirit, convicted of my lost condition, that without Him I would die and go to a devils hell prepared for satan and his demons, I was given the faith to trust in His finished work at the cross as the propitiation for my sin and being baptized into His body I was now dead to sin and alive and risen with Him. And because He lives I live forevermore. Furthermore His Spirit bares witness with my spirit that I am eternally saved. Now whether that meets your standards makes not one difference to me brother Nick. For I know whom I believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day.
vfirestormv
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Amen!
Salvation is the end result of trusting that he finished the job. Most do not even though they say they did. The evidence is their claims involving comparing good works. Anybody that states they will show you their faith by their works is outside the Body of Christ and bound to circumcision.
The Lord Jesus Christ says he draws all men. Not the Holy Spirit.
That is what the law does.
Yep. All do because of the transgression of one man.
Everyone was given the faith to trust him. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Nobody believes the gospel until they hear it.
The witness is what people say, not what they do. You have said evil wretched things against the faith attacking those that defend the gospel. That tells me all I need to know.
He has no interest in what you commit to him. You have to trust what he committed to you. Faith has two definitions. One is allegiance to a duty. His faith saved us.
Do you wear that stupid hat, in a building? Good day to you, sir.
vfirestormv
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Yeah and how? With the Holy Spirit.
Gal_3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Yes that is what the law does. God's holy law. And even if I hadn't known the law,
Rom_2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Yep
Yep
Nope, I sure haven't. I have said things through scripture against your doctrine of more than one gospel and when the church started.
Well take that up with Paul then because that was a darn near word for word quote of our Apostle Paul.
Yep, it was all from Him.
vfirestormv
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wouldn't that still be works brother Nick? I am not saved by works. By anything I say do or otherwise act. I am saved by grace alone through faith alone in Him alone.
Just call me brother, Nick. You can do it.