glassjester
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Alright. So a man cannot rightly understand Scripture while suffering from spiritual blindness.
How can one be cured of spiritual blindness?
What would make you Catholic?
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Alright. So a man cannot rightly understand Scripture while suffering from spiritual blindness.
How can one be cured of spiritual blindness?
Interestingly, Jesus puts no such restrictions on what He said. He said that when we are gathered in His name, He is with us. As always, I will deffer to His wisdom over yours.
I am fully satisfied that the RCC is but one sect of the Body of Christ. Protest all you want, you remain unable to definitively prove your claim.
My claim is that your church is but one sect of the Church that Jesus founded. Do try to quote me properly.
Cruciform
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Completely.
And who is the "you" that Jesus is addressing? Specifically, he is speaking to the seventy men whom he had chosen and appointed to be his ordained messengers to the nations (Lk. 10:1, 17). He is decidedly not addressing his statements to each and every lay believer on earth, as you wrongly assume. Try again.
Unless you can demonstrate that you're a bishop, he's given you no authority whatsoever. Thus, my prior statements stand exactly as posted.
Gaudium de veritate,
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They're blinded because they believe not (2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV). The only way those blinders are coming off is to the acknowledging of the truth (2 Timothy 2:24-26 KJV). heir shows no sign of sight.
(See how that works?)
Cruciform
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As always, you willfully ignore the text's literary context in order to cling to your wholly sectarian opinion. Back to Post #601.
Already decisively answered---and corrected---in previous posts above.
Already demonstrably corrected.
Gaudium de veritate,
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No, I ignore they man made interpretations that your sect teaches in favor of what the text actually says.
Only in your own mind.
By all means, try again. Of course you should not expect your rather biased links to work any better which means, you failed to adiquately demonstrate your assertion.
Cruciform
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"...what the text actually says" according to the opinions of your chosen recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect, anyway. But then, for those doctrinal opinions to carry any authority whatsoever, you must be able to demonstrate that your preferred recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect is in fact that one historic Church founded by Jesus Christ himself in 33 A.D., and against which he declared that the gates of hell would never prevail (Mt. 16:18-19; 1 Tim. 3:15). By all means, therefore, post your proof.
On the contrary. Your willful pathological ignorance in no way negates the objective truthfulness of the content of the information provided. The problem is you, not the facts presented.
Gaudium de veritate,
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heir
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Please wrap my quotes. It's not that hard to do.
Do you believe the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth?
What is the glorious gospel of Christ?
When were you saved after trusting the Lord believing it?
heir
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The blinders come off to the acknowledging of the truth!
2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
Right Divider
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Most do, including you. No?
Right Divider
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If you really want do know, I can show you. But you'll really need to separate yourself from that evil organization that teaches so much falsehood with just an occasional truth.
Must have, i don't see that anywhere in scripture.
Show us what you claim they base it on, lets look at it.
You can always read the scripture for yourself all by itself. Just read it. Close the catechism, close the links to all your Catholic resources and read it.
You do t seem to understand. I am telling you that your proofs failed, that you need to try something different if you want to convince people. In fact, the arrogance that you think you can actually reason people into believing you are correct is the biggest problem you have.
Cruciform
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Yes, let's all do that---all you members of the tens-of-thousands of Protestant sects out there, let's follow CM's advice: Go ahead and "read the scripture for yourselves, all by itself." Okay. Now---what'd you get? Everybody arrived at the very same interpretation, right? No?! How disappointing. Guess that's the reason for the 50,000+ non-Catholic sects in existence today, with more being invented every week. So much for CM's brilliant advice.
The plain fact is that every Protestant---including CM---reads and interprets the Bible according to the particular doctrinal tradition of his chosen recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect (or in my case, Christ's one historic Church). Catholics read the Bible through the lens of the ancient teaching Tradition of Christ's one historic Church, and non-Catholics read the Bible through the lens of their preferred non-Catholic sectarian tradition. Either way, one's doctrinal tradition guides and influences one's interpretive conclusions. It's simply unavoidable.
You seem to be unaware that I read and interpreted the Bible as an Evangelical Protestant for forty years---including in an Evangelical university and seminary---before becoming a Catholic. So I have plenty of experience reading the Bible exactly as you suggest. And, just like you, I interpreted the Scriptures according to the doctrinal tradition(s) of my preferred recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect(s), which carried no doctrinal authority whatsoever. Been there, done that.
Rather, you failed to affirm and embrace the facts of history and Divine Revelation. As you like.
Gaudium de veritate,
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glassjester
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Does a spiritually blind man need someone to show him how to properly interpret Scripture?
glassjester
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Everybody can't be great
glassjester
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I guess we'd better not pursue this discussion to its logical conclusion.
