What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

[Bladerunner]

i believe that the other two men were angels and one of the Men was God himself manifested in the flesh but not manifested as the Son of God, as the Son had not yet been born.

The Bible tells us in many places that Jesus was the first, the last, the Alpha, the Omega, the one who died and is still alive.....Is it this Jesus you speak of? The bible mostly reserved the word "LORD" in caps as God's identity, Lord as Jesus' Identity and lord for those men of earth who were over other poor souls. Your Nontrinitarianism is showing.

 

[oatmeal]

For what? A punctuation mark?


If Jesus is not God in the flesh, then who is? To whom are you referring by your phrase, "God in the flesh"? Whom are you saying Jesus is not?

There is no such entity in the scriprtures called, "God in the flesh". John 1:14 clearly states, that

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God was not made flesh, "the Word was made flesh"

The Greek word for "word" is logos, which basically means message.

The message was made flesh

We have the word, the message, in written form which is scripture

The word, the message, in the flesh is Jesus Christ, the only begotten of the Father

 

[oatmeal]

Saying it doesn't make it so.

God is the logos. Jesus is the logos. Therefore, Jesus is God.



No.

Logos means "logic" or "reason."

"Word" is a mistranslation.



When you can't even respond directly to something you yourself asked for, and then assert that which is false, expecting your opponent to just believe it because you said it, that makes you a fool.

The scripture is also the logos.

God's message is of course, logical and reasonable. However, logos means message

Please be patient with yourself. You can still learn if you become lowly and meek to learn

 

[Clete]

There is no such entity in the scriprtures called, "God in the flesh". John 1:14 clearly states, that

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God was not made flesh, "the Word was made flesh"

The Greek word for "word" is logos, which basically means message.

The message was made flesh

We have the word, the message, in written form which is scripture

The word, the message, in the flesh is Jesus Christ, the only begotten of the Father

The word logos does NOT mean message.

It MIGHT be able to be translated that way in some weird contexts but certainly not in John chapter 1 where the word is used.

You really should avoid saying things that you know nothing about when you're on the internet where people can look it up in just about ten seconds.

 

[7djengo7]

There is no such entity in the scriprtures called, "God in the flesh".

To whom are you referring by your phrase, "God in the flesh", when you say:

Jesus is not God in the flesh.

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I already asked you that:

To whom are you referring by your phrase, "God in the flesh"? Whom are you saying Jesus is not?

@oatmeal: <NO ANSWER>

 

[7djengo7]

God was not made flesh, "the Word was made flesh"

Nice try, Christ-hater. But Scripture contradicts your glaring falsehood by, in John 1:1, stating that "the Word was God". Thus, since the Word was God (v 1) and was made flesh (v 14), God was made flesh.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Nice try, Christ-hater. But Scripture contradicts your glaring falsehood by, in John 1:1, stating that "the Word was God". Thus, since the Word was God (v 1) and was made flesh (v 14), God was made flesh.

Even worse for her position, in the Greek, it says "God was the LOGOS."

 

[Bladerunner]

There is no such entity in the scriprtures called, "God in the flesh". John 1:14 clearly states, that

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God was not made flesh, "the Word was made flesh"

The Greek word for "word" is logos, which basically means message.

The message was made flesh

We have the word, the message, in written form which is scripture

The word, the message, in the flesh is Jesus Christ, the only begotten of the Father

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." 1 Ti 3:16

 

[Insight me]

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Thank you for reading and replying

The Old Testament explains clearly that the Spirit of The ANOINTING / CHRIST was IN the Old Testaments Prophets and Godly characters of the Old Testament

The Old Testament explains clearly that these did not receive the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ -

Jesus Christ the son of God was never revealed to them

➣- ➣ revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us


i was in no way wanting to make a comment about the doctrine of the Trinity, that is an entirely different subject

why would one need to discuss the Trinity in order to point out basic scriptures of the Bible ?



✣ but the point was to note that " Christ - " The Anointing " is similar to = the sword of the Spirit,


the word of God is the application / anointing of the Spirit Holy - the Christ / ANOINTING - the word is also how the world was created, I believe in this way as scriptures demonstrate Jesus Christ himself created all things --

by being the very anointing spirit of God himself,. from the begening,




sorry for not making that clearer

 

[Clete]

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Thank you for reading and replying

The Old Testament explains clearly that the Spirit of The ANOINTING / CHRIST was IN the Old Testaments Prophets and Godly characters of the Old Testament

The Old Testament explains clearly that these did not receive the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ -

Jesus Christ the son of God was never revealed to them

➣- ➣ revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us


i was in no way wanting to make a comment about the doctrine of the Trinity, that is an entirely different subject

why would one need to discuss the Trinity in order to point out basic scriptures of the Bible ?



✣ but the point was to note that " Christ - " The Anointing " is similar to = the sword of the Spirit,


the word of God is the application / anointing of the Spirit Holy - the Christ / ANOINTING - the word is also how the world was created, I believe in this way as scriptures demonstrate Jesus Christ himself created all things --

by being the very anointing spirit of God himself,. from the begening,




sorry for not making that clearer

Sorry, but I'd have to say that the point you're making is still far from clear.

What exactly is it that you're driving at?

Also, I'm more convinced than ever that this is Oneness Pentecostal (i.e. modalistic) doctrine. It is quite heretical. By equating “the Word” with “the Anointing” and with “the Spirit,” you're is collapsing the biblical distinctions between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. With this "Christ = The Anointing = The Word = The Spirit = Application of God’s Power = God only knows what else", you seem to be putting forward some sort of quasi-mystical abstraction, rather than a personal, relational, volitional, rational Son of God who became a man and died in payment for our sins.

 

[Insight me]

the word Christos is a Greek word that means in the Greek language = to apply, application, to be the application - anointing


The Scriptures agree with what you say that Jesus is the manifestation, form or MOPRPH OF GOD and what is being applied, ANOINTED -

Christ is what is placed, applied, positioned, stationed, appointed, working, rubbing, moving anointing

- the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, to handle); to furnish what is needed; , to apply and to use.

This is the role of Jesus the Anointing / Christ - that Gods Holy Spirit has applied HIS SACRIFICE for our salvation and also for communication to Him, the eternal spirit,


As far as the Trinity Doctrine, there are thousands upon thousands of denominations within denominations and even within Pentecostal - ism as well. there are many denominations

I belong to none of them nor would recommend their human attempts to explain the manifestation of God - if you wish to share your Trinity formula , i would not mind the discussion, however I alone profess what the scripture sayeth.

i just do not see any scripture from your posts to know enough about your formula on the Trinity, the Trinity has been heavily debated for almost 2000 years because Christians are still translating and reviewing a book that took nearly 2000 years to update to a modern language,

I did not want to specifically handle your book review based on personal - ism - I just want to share what the SCRIPTURE says,.alone.

bless alway

 

[oatmeal]

The word logos does NOT mean message.

It MIGHT be able to be translated that way in some weird contexts but certainly not in John chapter 1 where the word is used.

You really should avoid saying things that you know nothing about when you're on the internet where people can look it up in just about ten seconds.

Why is logos translated "word" if it does not mean "word"? If it means "God" everywhere, why not translate it "God" everywhere?

Mat 5:32

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause [logos] of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mat 5:37

But let your communication [logos] be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Mat 7:24

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings [logos, plural] of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Mat 7:26

And every one that heareth these sayings [logos, plural] of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

Rev 1:9

I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word [logos] of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Why not substitute the word "God, or Gods, where logos is plural" in these verses?

 

[oatmeal]

Nice try, Christ-hater. But Scripture contradicts your glaring falsehood by, in John 1:1, stating that "the Word was God". Thus, since the Word was God (v 1) and was made flesh (v 14), God was made flesh.

"Christ hater?"

Why "was" past tense? If that is an accurate translation, then the word had been God but is no longer God, thus the word is something else after it ceased to be God.

What is the word now?

Logos means message or communication or saying. The message was God

Why pollute scripture?