Yeppers.
That right there is where the buck should stop because there is nowhere in scripture that says otherwise.
To me, all this "GOD is outside of time" business is Platonism with a Christian veneer.
What is the Gospel?
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To me, all this "GOD is outside of time" business is Platonism with a Christian veneer.
Evil.Eye.*{@}*
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Ephesians 4:15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ
I mean... I can humiliate a person and kick them in the head in Love... right?
I can beat a person into all Truth!?! Right? That’s worked every time!
Shame and Singling a person out changes everyone... right?
Love is tough when people get smacked around verbally.
There’s no such thing as being hurtful and who needs patience infused with trust in the Holy Spirit? Right?
Evil.Eye.*{@}*
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I will become lesser, so you can retain your greater.
:Scooting Back:
Post Script!!! Squeeeee... ad liar to the plaque too!
I wish I could be that witty like you.
You seem to know how not to be hurt.
good for you
Evil.Eye.*{@}*
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I wish I could be that witty like you.
You seem to know how not to be hurt.
good for you
You have a mighty presence, too, Meshak.
Unfortunately... the reason I seem so witty, is because I’m good at that game... because I used to play it and hurt others. Perhaps the skill looks good but it is the result of ill spent time.
All blessings to you, Sister in Christ... be thankful you have repented of hurting others... long before I have at times. I’ve gone far too far down bad paths in the past. You sensitive heart is a blessing.
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I will if RD wants to.
He and I are friends and we already agree on most things, so I know that at least he and I could have a civil conversation about it.
(Of course we can still blast everyone else.)
Bluntly, I certainly think no less of him for presenting a view that has a different conclusion than mine.
But some topics folks get real heated about.
I don't want to start a thread on this topic unless there is a good chance of some civil disagreement.
Is that a 'yes'?
glorydaz
Well-known member
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You had to have seen what set it off. I dared to rebuke Evil Eye for attacking and falsely accusing AMR of saying exactly what I said. He said he preached the Gospel to all, but he wouldn't be able to say "OUR" to them all because he didn't know who God would end up saving. He didn't get any deeper into his doctrine than that before Evil rudely attacked him, and leapt in support of Sonnet (a professed unbeliever). He railed on the way Sonnet was being treated by professing Christians. Sonnet was bent on turning believers against each other over whether Christ died for all or not. I can't stand the thought of reliving the nightmare, myself. I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone.
It was sheer anger at me, and that's exactly what it was. That's what Evil cannot let go of....all while claiming he is now a great LOVER and Forgiver. I even gave him the opportunity to stop...give it up, but he only doubled down.
I hurt Evil's pride and he set out to turn everyone against me. People didn't jump like he wanted them to, so he took to using his socks to support what he was saying, and Sonnet was simply his lap dog...they have some strange connection.
It's kinda humorous when you stop and think about it (in a weird sorta way). :chuckle:
Lon
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I think this is a good treatment, but it too, is caught in the finite. So a couple of points:
1) God IS infinite. What that means is that there is nothing outside of Him thus 'travel' is a :nono:
2) ALL that exists, is created by Him. While He does inhabit His creation, it is a finite and limited understanding.
While I appreciate Enyart's thinking, he still has God in creation, by his thinking, rather than beyond it. He is always thinking in 3-D. God is not 'in' Creation but relationally. While I appreciate the OV for relational emphasis, logically, God is 'beyond' finite constraints. I always say "Relational to, unconstrained by." So, imho, Enyart has it half right.
In Him -Lon
Meshak appears to hold to a greatly erroneous, Watch Tower view of salvation.
If that is the case, then either she was once sound, was saved, ended up confused, but is still saved, and therefore a sister in Christ.
Or she never had it right to begin with, was lost, went from that to worse when she hooked up with the Watch Tower cult, and is thus still lost, and therefore not a sister in Christ, but a lost person on her way to an eternal damnation.
Not sure where you yourself are on this distinction between those two types, but if you are clear, then do not compromise it just because the same old hypocrites on here are against you once more, or whatever, and Meshak threw you a bone of kindness or whatever.
You do no one any favor by compromising the truth of the gospel of our salvation - neither that of your own testimony, nor that of their eternal destiny.
The grace of Romans 14:5 towards you; in memory of the grace of Romans 5:6-8 - in each our stead.
And only the would be grace of Romans 5:6-8 towards Meshak, until I am clear that her doctrine merits a Romans 14:5 also.
And thus far, hers does not appear to be the case.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
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I will if RD wants to.
He and I are friends and we already agree on most things, so I know that at least he and I could have a civil conversation about it.
(Of course we can still blast everyone else.)
Bluntly, I certainly think no less of him for presenting a view that has a different conclusion than mine.
But some topics folks get real heated about.
I don't want to start a thread on this topic unless there is a good chance of some civil disagreement.
I civilly assert right divider is fulla bs. :crackup:
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
You are still at it hah?
All I can say is watch out for your false beliefs.
JWs are much more Christian than most of you.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
Less condemnable maybe......
no maybe about it. Their fruit is showing to the world.
glorydaz
Well-known member
Their fruit....that is not the Fruit of the Spirit. It's good works to be seen of men. It's announcing what a great person you are to forgive and to love others.
No one who truly forgives and loves others announces it....they do it quietly out of sight - without boasting. When it's done for show or to earn rewards, they'll get none from God. Jesus was very clear on this matter.
Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
