What did you believe before Open Theism?

JudgeRightly

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I think you do not believe that God does not know about future events. Is that correct? If that is so you don't believe in the total omniscience of God.

Have I not represented you correctly?

No, you have not represented me correctly.

First, your sentence has a double negative, so I’m not entirely sure what you intended to say. But if you meant that I deny God knows anything about future events, then no, that is not correct.

I believe God knows future events that are settled, determined, promised, declared, intended, or otherwise knowable.

What I deny is that every future free act already exists as a settled fact before it happens.

You keep treating that denial as a denial of omniscience, but that only works if you first define omniscience as exhaustive settled foreknowledge of every future free act. That is the very point under dispute.

So no, you have not represented Open Theism correctly. You are conflating “God knows the future” with “every future free act is already settled.” Open Theism affirms the former and denies the latter.
 

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No, you have not represented me correctly.

First, your sentence has a double negative, so I’m not entirely sure what you intended to say. But if you meant that I deny God knows anything about future events, then no, that is not correct.

I believe God knows future events that are settled, determined, promised, declared, intended, or otherwise knowable.

What I deny is that every future free act already exists as a settled fact before it happens.

You keep treating that denial as a denial of omniscience, but that only works if you first define omniscience as exhaustive settled foreknowledge of every future free act. That is the very point under dispute.

So no, you have not represented Open Theism correctly. You are conflating “God knows the future” with “every future free act is already settled.” Open Theism affirms the former and denies the latter.
Thank you for the correction.
 

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Ultimately, open theism is not based on man's freedom but on God's freedom. Open theism is the Christian doctrine that the future is not settled but open because God is alive, eternally free, and inexhaustibly creative. Although this undeniable truth is virtual heresy to many Calvinist and Arminian theologians, regardless, open theists affirm the obvious, that God is able to think new thoughts. And He can write new songs. And if He so desires He could design new butterflies too.
 

Bright Raven

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No, it does NOT!

You're like a broken record BR. Again, you've not listened to a single thing that others have said. You are DEAF and BLIND.
What is it that you do not understand Psalm 147:5

Psalm 147:5

New King James Version

5 Great is our Lord, and mighty in power;
His understanding is infinite.
 
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