What did you believe before Open Theism?

[Lon]

Then why are you doing so? "To view" or "to behold" carry exactly the same connotation as "to see", and it conveys an anticipation of the outcome, not a sense of already knowing.

Because 'see' can mean so many things. It doesn't always have to mean 'discovery.' Rather to see is just and only 'see.' To witness, to be with, etc. etc. etc. Open Theism draws a narrow view, forgive the unintended pun, but it illustrates the need.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Oh yes! I remember it as if it happened yesterday!
Here's the WHOLE argument....


"Water baptism isn't necessary for salvation because there are two parallel passages...

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." (John 6:47)​

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"He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." (Mark 16:16)​

The only way both statement can be true is if belief is the requirement, not baptism."


Believe it or not, that is what sent my Sunday School teacher into hysterics and had him practically screaming at me that, "We don't have to listen to you! Get out of here!"

And trust me! I was a child! I did NOT argue with this man. I was the opposite of a disrespectful kid and wouldn't have had the guts to stand up to any adult about anything for any reason. I was sitting there stunned as everyone else. All I could think was, "Well, don't ask questions if you don't want me to answer.", but I didn't say that out loud. I was sitting in the hallway with tears in my eyes wondering what the heck happened!

Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me. “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 18:2-7 - New King James Version

Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the...

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