Big Mouth Nana said:You sound like another, or the same "laqach" person from CF that no one could understand their posts :kookoo: What's the matter, don't know how to speak English??? It's called R-A-P-T-U-R-E.....even though I don't believe in one :chuckle: secondcomingisnext, if you want to get technical? Gee, I should have used this for my username :think:
That's because you really do not use Scripture, itself for your doctrine
Look at that post of yours, you made an attack and called someone's posts kookoo without any atttempt at all to define what is koo koo or using any Scripture whatsoever to defend your own position.
you say you believe in one second coming, and ignorantly -literally ignorantly- say the laqach means' coming'.
I also believe in one second coming to this planet to plant His feet in Jerusalem and reign as King of Kings and LORD of Lords; but the laqach is defined in Strong's, and Laqach is not 'coming', Bigmouthnana: it is used and defined these ways:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/3/1138151382-1455.html
translated into English these ways:
AV - take 747, receive 61, take away 51, fetch 31, bring 25, get 6,
take out 6, carry away 5, married 4, buy 3, misc 26; 965
defined with these words:
1) to take, get, fetch, lay hold of, seize, receive, acquire, buy,
bring, marry, take a wife, snatch, take away
a) (Qal) 1) to take, take in the hand
2) to take and carry along
3) to take from, take out of, take, carry away, take away
4) to take to or for a person, procure, get, take possession of, select, choose, take in marriage, receive, accept
5) to take up or upon, put upon
6) to fetch
7) to take, lead, conduct
8) to take, capture, seize
9) to take, carry off
10) to take (vengeance)
b) (Niphal)
1) to be captured
2) to be taken away, be removed
3) to be taken, brought unto
c) (Pual)
1) to be taken from or out o
2) to be stolen from
3) to be taken captive
4) to be taken away, be removed
d) (Hophal)
1) to be taken unto, be brought unto
2) to be taken out of
3) to be taken away
e) (Hithpael)
1) to take hold of oneself
2) to flash about (of lightning)
The "laqach", is Hebrew; "Harpazo", is the Greek; and "rapture", is from the Latin.
It is what God did when Enoch walked with Him and was not, for God took him, which was when the Hebrew says God "laqach" him. -see?
It is what Jesus Christ will do to the entire 'congregation', which is His 'Church', also called 'synagogue', also called His 'assembly' before He judges the inhabitants of the world, which will be at that time during the seven year period called the great tribulation, when the hearts of the inhabitants of the earth will 'melt', 'faint, 'dissolve', for fear of the things coming on the earth, as Psalm 75:2,3 -in the original Hebrew says:
" laqach mow`ed shaphat meyshar 'erets yashab muwg..."
"When I "laqach" the "congregation", I shall judge with equity -uprightly-; earth's inhabitants will faint".
If you want to discuss the Scriptures on the subject of the pre-trib rapture, we can do so on another thread.
I will look forward to it, where you must answer with Scripture, instead of attacking character and making accusations without refuting doctrine with Scripture -see if you can do it.