Ukraine Crisis

Hoping

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Who are struggling enough as it is and are doing so because these people are fleeing an actual invasion, not simply the threat of one. Do you actually think things through on anything with any depth?
All while joyfully displaying the characteristics of God fearing folks.
As a Christian, I will obey the One who died for my sins, and He said to pray for our enemies and do them good.
 

Hoping

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What does that mean exactly? Has everyone who's died be it in war atrocity or else not been protected because they didn't have the right faith or something? Seems to be what you're alluding to.
Sometimes bad things happen for a greater good.
The sufferings Paul endured made him more resolute than ever.
As for "didn't they have the right faith or something", I have no idea.
I know that everyone dies because of their sin.
Some will die twice.
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
Funny how they just slipped "bioweapons research" in there.

nothing funny about it

some people are intuitive some people are not

That's not how intuition works.

Department of Defense make weapons

Using a tabloid for DoD info isn't the best use of your analytical thinking.

Again: bioresearch isn't automatically bioweapons. That's Russian propaganda getting you again.





“Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca investment fund financed the Pentagon’s military biological program in Ukraine, said Igor Kirillov, head of the radiation, chemical and biological defense forces of the Russian Armed Forces.”

RIA Novosti, Russian state-owned domestic news agency, March 24
“The National Pulse is reporting tonight apparently a private equity firm run by Hunter Biden funded some of the research into pathogens in these bio labs.”
Tucker Carlson, remarks on his Fox News show, March 24
“Russia’s assertion that President Biden’s son Hunter was ‘financing … biological laboratories in Ukraine’ was based in truth, according to e-mails reviewed by The Post.”
New York Post article, March 26
“BOMBSHELL: Did Russia Invade Ukraine Because of the Bidens’ Biolabs? Hunter’s Laptop Says ‘Yes’ ”
Headline on PJ Media article, March 26

The Russian Defense Ministry knows how to stir up the interest of the right-leaning news media in the United States — just mention Hunter Biden, the president’s son.

Russia for years has been seeding the ground to claim that the United States set up biowarfare labs in Ukraine and other former Soviet republics — claims that have been revived as part of the invasion of Ukraine. As part of his media presentation, Igor Kirillov of the Russian armed forces alleged the labs were part of the U.S. plot to study the natural immunity of the population to identify the most dangerous pathogen for people in the region.

The Defense Ministry released a complex-looking flow chart with spaghetti lines depicting not only the involvement of Hunter Biden but financier George Soros in the alleged financing of “bioweapons labs.” But the reference to Hunter Biden was catnip to the right-leaning media. Reporters immediately dug into their copies of Biden’s laptop, supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019, and dredged up emails that they suggested validated the Russian report.

First of all, as we have previously documented, these are not bioweapons labs, but biological research facilities focused on better detecting, diagnosing and monitoring infectious-disease outbreaks. Second, random emails can be easily misinterpreted without additional reporting.

We’ve dug into the records and discussed the deals in question with people involved. The reporting from those news outlets is false. Hunter Biden has come under scrutiny for business deals in places such as Ukraine and China that took place while his father was vice president. But he was not “financing” these labs. In fact, he was not part of a decision to invest in a company at the center of the Russian allegations, he did not profit from it as he was kicked out of the investment firm over cocaine allegations, and the company made little money from its tiny bit of business in Ukraine.

The Pentagon program​

There are several layers to this story, so let’s peel the onion. There is a U.S.-led project, known as the Cooperative Threat Reduction program, to help former Soviet states transform old Soviet labs into state-of-the-art biological research facilities. Various American companies received contracts from the Pentagon to do that work. One of those subcontractors — a relatively minor one called Metabiota — did some work in Ukraine. That firm received an investment from a private equity firm associated with Hunter Biden.

That investment had nothing to do with the labs in Ukraine. But the Russian Defense Ministry’s flow chart is a good illustration of how tenuous connections can be made to look sinister. Underneath Hunter Biden, the chart shows a box with Soros. A line then connects Soros to Gilead Sciences, a U.S. biopharmaceutical company that was a Pentagon subcontractor. The line eventually leads to the Ukrainian Health Ministry and the labs.

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Arthur Brain

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All while joyfully displaying the characteristics of God fearing folks.
As a Christian, I will obey the One who died for my sins, and He said to pray for our enemies and do them good.
What "joyful characteristics" would those be exactly?
The refugees from Ukraine certainly aren't your enemy so how about praying for their well being instead of judging them so much?
 

Arthur Brain

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Jesus posed Lazarus in a fiery environment, where there is no hope.
His condemnation had already happened.
What? That was the rich man, not Lazarus. Ya know, the guy who denied Lazarus even the food scraps off his table? Even then it's pretty clear it's symbolic.
 

Arthur Brain

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You make death sound like some really unusual occurrence.
It isn't.
Well of course it isn't. Doesn't excuse war atrocity or any other sort that results in it though. On the one hand you consider it moral and virtuous to be completely non violent. On the other you're remarkably glib about those who suffer and die as a result of violence being inflicted upon them. Quite the double standard you have going on there...
 

Arthur Brain

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Sometimes bad things happen for a greater good.
The sufferings Paul endured made him more resolute than ever.
As for "didn't they have the right faith or something", I have no idea.
I know that everyone dies because of their sin.
Some will die twice.
Well at least you concede that you have no idea. That's a start...
 

User Name

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At the start of this month, the Russian ruble had fallen by up to 30%, with inflation reaching 20%. Speculation about the future of central bank head Elvira Nabiullina has intensified in recent days. She was caught looking despondent during a Kremlin meeting and posted a cryptic video in which she conceded the Russian economy was in an ‘extreme’ status and stated, “We all wish this had not occurred.”

 

Right Divider

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Many people disagree.
So what?
Read literally it doesn't make sense as has been done all over on here.
So what? Lots of true things don't make sense to you.
Lazarus as I recall translates as 'misery' and the rich man with purple linen was a metaphor for Israel.
Possibly.
It makes way more sense to regard it as symbolic but fodder for another thread really.
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Gary K

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At the start of this month, the Russian ruble had fallen by up to 30%, with inflation reaching 20%. Speculation about the future of central bank head Elvira Nabiullina has intensified in recent days. She was caught looking despondent during a Kremlin meeting and posted a cryptic video in which she conceded the Russian economy was in an ‘extreme’ status and stated, “We all wish this had not occurred.”

 
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