Ukraine Crisis

annabenedetti

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The US democrat party is also moving full bore to make America a part of the league of nations, or 'one-world government.' That is what all the nonsense about global warming is all about. Unsustainable government borrowing and spending coupled with skyrocketing gas prices are working well to bring America to its knees and force it to join the global governing body ruled by atheists, secularists, and hedonists.

Such drama, such baseless fear-mongering.

Conservatives have been talking about a one-world government for what, like the better part of a century now?
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass

First: Neo-Nazis are bad.

Second: Neo-Nazis make up an estimated 10-20% of the roughly 900 members of Azov.

Third: There are, by various accounts, several hundred thousand Ukrainian troops on the ground at the moment.

Looks like the headline is just a tad misleading.

Oh, Gateway Pundit? Well of course it is! 😂

Let's make Ukrainian War Heroes look bad while they make your silly trucker horn tooters look like a bunch of whinybabies!

Considering the source though, this was an interesting, albeit self-unaware nod to our own homegrown rightwing Neo-Nazis and militias:

"The group as we noted, is violent, especially against groups like transvestites, gypsies, and immigrants."

"Outside Ukraine, Azov occupies a central role in a network of extremist groups stretching from California across Europe to New Zealand, according to law enforcement officials on three continents."
 
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Arthur Brain

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First: Neo-Nazis are bad.

Second: Neo-Nazis make up an estimated 10-20% of the roughly 900 members of Azov.

Third: There are, by various accounts, several hundred thousand Ukrainian troops on the ground at the moment.

Looks like the headline is just a tad misleading.

Oh, Gateway Pundit? Well of course it is! 😂

Let's make Ukrainian War Heroes look bad while they make your silly trucker horn tooters look like a bunch of whinybabies!

Considering the source though, this was an interesting, albeit self-unaware nod to our own homegrown rightwing Neo-Nazis and militias:

"The group as we noted, is violent, especially against groups like transvestites, gypsies, and immigrants."

"Outside Ukraine, Azov occupies a central role in a network of extremist groups stretching from California across Europe to New Zealand, according to law enforcement officials on three continents."
A TGP headline only a tad misleading? Come now. That's akin to saying Q-anon is only semi bat crazy. You should know better than this...;)

In further comment, the far right have a history of trying to distance themselves away from Nazi ideology by futilely trying to paint it as left wing. Of course this is undone by the likes of the far right who gladly embrace the swastika as Nazi ideology at "Unite The Right!" rallies etc, not to mention accurate history and academia on the score as it is anyway...

Plus, yup, there's more akin with the far right in America & The West with the likes of Putin's Russia because it doesn't advocate freedom and would gladly have a society under a law ("religious" or otherwise) more akin to dictatorship than democracy. Some are flat out against the latter...

So hey, here we are...
 
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Arthur Brain

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One thing that's becoming clear as this thing drags on, is that the Russian Orthodox Church approves of this invasion.

That hearkens back to the Catholic Church in medieval Europe.

It's not like Ukraine isn't Christian, or even not Orthodox Christian. Ukraine is open to Holy Orthodoxy, there's even an Orthodox Church "of Ukraine".

But the autocephalous Russian Orthodox Church (it means they have a 'patriarch' who is a bishop who doesn't 'report to' any 'higher' bishop, patriarchs are the 'highest' bishops in Orthodoxy, there are a handful of them) apparently approves of this war.

It hearkens back to when the Catholic Church in medieval Europe didn't yet completely understand the concept of God given universal and absolute human rights. The Russian patriarch appears to be about 500 years 'behind to times'.
Not from what I've seen. The opposite in fact. There was a special report on what the Russian Orthodox Church thought on this invasion across the pond and it wasn't complimentary by any stretch.
 

Idolater

"Foundation of the World" Dispensationalist χρ
I'm not gonna click on a link until I know where it's from.
bbc-dot-com headline Патріарх Кирило благословив війська РФ на війну проти України translation Patriarch Kirill blessed the troops of the Russian Federation for the war against Ukraine
 

marke

Well-known member
Such drama, such baseless fear-mongering.

Conservatives have been talking about a one-world government for what, like the better part of a century now?
Ignorance of the WEF, of the Paris Accord, of the UN Sustainable Growth initiatives, and more, does not make one an expert on plans for a new one-world government.
 

marke

Well-known member
First: Neo-Nazis are bad.

Second: Neo-Nazis make up an estimated 10-20% of the roughly 900 members of Azov.

Third: There are, by various accounts, several hundred thousand Ukrainian troops on the ground at the moment.

Looks like the headline is just a tad misleading.

Oh, Gateway Pundit? Well of course it is! 😂

Let's make Ukrainian War Heroes look bad while they make your silly trucker horn tooters look like a bunch of whinybabies!

Considering the source though, this was an interesting, albeit self-unaware nod to our own homegrown rightwing Neo-Nazis and militias:

"The group as we noted, is violent, especially against groups like transvestites, gypsies, and immigrants."

"Outside Ukraine, Azov occupies a central role in a network of extremist groups stretching from California across Europe to New Zealand, according to law enforcement officials on three continents."
All proud tyrants are bad, whether warlords in Russia or the Middle East or in pipsqueak positions in US federal or state governments.
 

marke

Well-known member
A TGP headline only a tad misleading? Come now. That's akin to saying Q-anon is only semi bat crazy. You should know better than this...;)

In further comment, the far right have a history of trying to distance themselves away from Nazi ideology by futilely trying to paint it as left wing. Of course this is undone by the likes of the far right who gladly embrace the swastika as Nazi ideology at "Unite The Right!" rallies etc, not to mention accurate history and academia on the score as it is anyway...

Plus, yup, there's more akin with the far right in America & The West with the likes of Putin's Russia because it doesn't advocate freedom and would gladly have a society under a law ("religious" or otherwise) more akin to dictatorship than democracy. Some are flat out against the latter...

So hey, here we are...
Government officials who don't know the Lord are turning out to be hateful tyrants in the modern world.
 

marke

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Not from what I've seen. The opposite in fact. There was a special report on what the Russian Orthodox Church thought on this invasion across the pond and it wasn't complimentary by any stretch.
High human church officials do not always have the mind of Christ.
 

Idolater

"Foundation of the World" Dispensationalist χρ
Such drama, such baseless fear-mongering.

Conservatives have been talking about a one-world government for what, like the better part of a century now?
The fearmongers make a false dichotomy for themselves for some reason and then fail to recognize it. They imagine that the two mutually exclusive choices are between the 'status quo', and Washington surrendering absolute sovereignty. There is a third option. Expand the United States. Swallow the whole world into Washington federal power and into the United States Constitution. I don't know why any of the fearmongers wouldn't support that. Marke has even said that he wouldn't be opposed to that model of a one world government, he just doesn't support Washington losing sovereignty.
 

Arthur Brain

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bbc-dot-com headline Патріарх Кирило благословив війська РФ на війну проти України translation Patriarch Kirill blessed the troops of the Russian Federation for the war against Ukraine
Well, he might just be one wingnut that goes against the grain then.
 

Arthur Brain

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He's the patriarch. He's like the king of the Church. He is the grain of the Russian Orthodox Church.
Well, best get some better grain then. Do you believe in papal infallibility? I happen to like Pope Francis as it goes as he's not mired in patriarchy or zealous mindset run amok and he happens to condemn the invasion and the appalling atrocities associated, as do many within the Russian Orthodox Church. What say you?
 
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