ECT Two different gospels? One for the circumcisions and another for the uncircumcision?

[john w]

Right.

So,(the one and only) Gospel Truth ....


Please spell out the supposed gospel messages, point by point, please . . . if you can.

=only one piece of good news in the book.


Made up, straight from your SOF. Clueless Clavinist, and she continues to spam gospel "messages"-scripture knows no such language, as she continues to satanically assert, that her saint Judas preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV....


Luke 9 KJV
1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

3 And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.

4 And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart.

5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.

Naggie: What does"gospel" mean?

 

[john w]

When did ANY of the Apostles or disciples of Jesus Christ proclaim anything different, except Judas Iscariot?

Made up-no scripture says that Judas proclaimed anything different, than the other 11, or what the Lord Jesus Christ preached-the good news of the coming kingdom of heaven upon the earth, "the gospel of the kingdom," which is not equivalent to the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which you've been shown, for years, chapter and verse, in which to stuff that Clavinist SOF jazz, but you keep spamming sound bytes, that have NADA scriptural backing. Zip.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Made up-no scripture says that Judas proclaimed anything different, than the other 11, or what the Lord Jesus Christ preached-the good news of the coming kingdom of heaven upon the earth, "the gospel of the kingdom," which is not equivalent to the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which you've been shown, for years, chapter and verse, in which to stuff that Clavinist SOF jazz, but you keep spamming sound bytes, that have NADA scriptural backing. Zip.

The gospel of the Kingdom is preached first and then how to enter it is presented to those seeking it.

It is all the one and same gospel of Christ, to whosever may come.

Preached in/to the world by the Bride of Christ which is His Body the Church. (To the end of the age)

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:


LA

 

[oatmeal]

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Yes, there is a common gospel in this age of grace, for we are not under the law.

Those in the gospel period were under the law for righteousness

We receive righteousness as a gift of God's grace. Romans 5:17,19; I Corinthians 1:30

Two differing sets of laws yields two different gospels

There is only one gospel for this age of age, even though, different truths apply to different people and circumstances to varying degrees

 

[john w]

The gospel of the Kingdom is preached first and then how to enter it is presented to those seeking it.

It is all the one and same gospel of Christ, to whosever may come.

=Assert, pound the podium, declare "victory," return to Christ rejecting, "there is just one piece of good news in the book, which is my satanic book" echo chamber.

Made up.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

=Assert, pound the podium, declare "victory," return to Christ rejecting, "there is just one piece of good news in the book, which is my satanic book" echo chamber.

Made up.

Per Nang, the whole Bible is the gospel.

Gen 24:64 (KJV). Believe it and be saved, john.

 

[john w]

Per Nang, the whole Bible is the gospel.

Gen 24:64 (KJV). Believe it and be saved, john.

And "the gospel message"=fog="it all says the same thing"=disregard for the details of the book.


Curious, as most who have a secular job would be fired, had they shown the same disregard for the details of their job, as they do with the bible.

I wonder what causes that, mayor?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Curious, as most who have a secular job would be fired, had they shown the same disregard for the details of their job, as they do with the bible.

And, they don't even treat their car manuals with the same disregard. It all says the same thing, let's just put milk in the gas tank and replace the wipers with barbed wire.

 

[john w]

And, they don't even treat their car manuals with the same disregard. It all says the same thing, let's just put milk in the gas tank and replace the wipers with barbed wire.

And let Myrtle "Hubcaps" Lesch put in the gas/sawdust.


Bless you, mayor.

 

[Nick M]

Per Nang, the whole Bible is the gospel.

Gen 24:64 (KJV). Believe it and be saved, john.

And then there is this little nugget;

Job 2

9Then his wife said to him, “Do you still hold fast to your integrity? Curse God and die!”

Naggie: What does"gospel" mean?

When are we going to get this answer? What good news did Judas preach? How many times does Saint John W have to ask before it is answered?

 

[Ktoyou]

There was a gospel in the garden of Eden.

But once they disobeyed that gospel, and were evicted, the gospel changed for they no longer were in the garden.

Abraham was not subject to the law of Moses, for Moses did not precede Abraham.

Jesus Christ fulfilled that law of Moses, having fulfilled it, what was next?

More Law? or the abundance of grace?

Can you see this is a bit silly? How would i respond to this? "Jesus Christ fulfilled that law of Moses,having fulfilled it, what was next? More Law?"

Would it seem rational to say, "Oh yes, more law indeed, we had to make room for news laws so we dumped some old laws?"

 

[john w]

And then there is this little nugget;

Job 2

9Then his wife said to him, “Do you still hold fast to your integrity? Curse God and die!”



When are we going to get this answer? What good news did Judas preach? How many times does Saint John W have to ask before it is answered?

Here is her "deer in the headlights" "response," N the g:

 

[Nang]

And then there is this little nugget;

Job 2

9Then his wife said to him, “Do you still hold fast to your integrity? Curse God and die!”

To say the entire bible contains the One True Gospel, is not to say any verse isolated from the whole teaches the full gospel message. Not even I Corinthians 15:1-4 teaches the full gospel message, even though it is the One True Gospel.

However, if the above verse from Job Chapter 2 is studied in its context, exegesis will reveal a message of the One True Gospel of grace in this passage.

When are we going to get this answer? What good news did Judas preach? How many times does Saint John W have to ask before it is answered?

Sorry, but I have John W on ignore and do not see all his posts, anymore. Plus, most of his remarks are not to be taken very seriously, IMO. However, to answer your question, I would define the One True Gospel as being taught in 5 major ways:

1. Grace being an eternal attribute of God, is revealed to undeserving sinners, to the saving of their souls, from sin, death, and the powers of the devil.

2. Grace comes in covenant (promise) form, to all who were decreed to be redeemed in Christ before the foundation of the world.

3. Grace is irresistible. God's promises do not change and cannot be thwarted by the negative or neglect of will or sinfulness of men.

4. Grace that was promised, fulfilled, and manifested in the Incarnate Christ Jesus, and His righteous works, death, resurrection, and ascension alone.

5. Grace that comes to the redeemed by the unconditional gift of faith to believe the One True Gospel of Jesus Christ, from God alone.

All five of these definitions (plus many others) of God's grace are found throughout the writings of the entire bible.

These are all revealed through Covenants from God, the primary being the Covenant of Works and the New Covenant of Grace, which issue forth from the Everlasting Covenant of Redemption established within the Godhead, before the creation of the world. Ephesians 1:3-4

Gospel and Covenant are synonymous.

The first time the One True Gospel of Jesus Christ was proclaimed, was by God covenanting to produce a Seed to remedy the fall of mankind in the garden, by the deception of the devil. God promised Eve a Seed from her would crush the head of the serpent who deceived her. Genesis 3:15

This Covenant and act of remedial/saving and divine grace was fulfilled in the Seed of Eve; the Seed of David; conceived in the womb and born of woman, under the Law, in the fulllness of time, in the birth of Jesus Christ, His life, His sacrificial death, and His resurrection. Hebrews 2:9-18

This is only a very brief answer to the most important subject man can study . . The One True Gospel of Jesus Christ, as promised and taught throughout the Holy Word of God.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Not even I Corinthians 15:1-4 teaches the full gospel message, even though it is the One True Gospel.

What is the full gospel message?

What would you tell someone on the street who asked you for the gospel? Someone drowning in sin and desperately wanting to be saved.

 

[Nick M]

To say the entire bible contains the One True Gospel, is not to say any verse isolated from the whole teaches the full gospel message.

That is our position you evil pig. The red letter says tell no one that Jesus is the Christ. The red letter say the Pharisee sits in the seat of Moses and I am to do and observe whatever he tells me. NO!

I will not do it. It is not to me. What Paul wrote, which is from the risen Lord Jesus Christ, is for me.

You wretched fool.

 

[oatmeal]

Can you see this is a bit silly? How would i respond to this? "Jesus Christ fulfilled that law of Moses,having fulfilled it, what was next? More Law?"

Would it seem rational to say, "Oh yes, more law indeed, we had to make room for news laws so we dumped some old laws?"

Not at all silly

Simple and scripturally logical

Where is that tree that Adam and Eve were not to eat the fruit of?

Do you have access to it?

Since you do not have access to it, why keep that law on the books?

Was there a written law before God gave the law to Moses?

Romans 4:15

Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

The patriarchs could not transgress for there was no law.

The law was added

Galatians 3:19

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

God wanted people to know that there is such a thing as right and wrong clearly spelled out

 

[Nang]

What is the full gospel message?

What would tell someone on the street who asked you for the gospel? Someone drowning in sin and desperately wanting to be saved.

The first thing I mention in my gospel message, is that all men are sinners by nature, and only the grace of God through gifted faith in the righteousness of Jesus Christ, can free them from this bondage.

Right away, if the person denies they are sinful and they resist this initial premise of the truth of the total depravity of all mankind, I rarely go further, unless specific questions are asked.

For those who deny their sinfulness, have not been changed in heart nor show evidence of being drawn to faith in Christ, by the powers of the Holy Spirit.

Without God regenerating the sinner and giving him a new heart and ears to hear, and indwelling him with the presence of the Holy Spirit (I Corinthians 2:9-16) he will only consider the rest of the gospel message to be foolishness; bringing more everlasting harm and punishment upon his soul.

Rather, from that point I simply give my witness as to how God saved me by His grace, and has enlightened my spiritual eyes through the study of the Holy Scriptures, assuring me of the promise of forgiveness and everlasting life in Christ's glory.

 

[Cross Reference]

That is our position you evil pig. The red letter says tell no one that Jesus is the Christ. The red letter say the Pharisee sits in the seat of Moses and I am to do and observe whatever he tells me. NO!

I will not do it. It is not to me. What Paul wrote, which is from the risen Lord Jesus Christ, is for me.

You wretched fool.

What are you "sucking" on, or is it "blowing"? Is that subtle porn you are subjecting us to? They have a word for that you use quite freely. Perhaps its time you "eat" your accusations as well __ and without invoking the Name of Jesus while you do so, blast you !!

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

The first thing I mention in my gospel message, is that all men are sinners by nature, and only the grace of God through gifted faith in the righteousness of Jesus Christ, can free them from this bondage.

Right away, if the person denies they are sinful and they resist this initial premise of the truth of the total depravity of all mankind, I rarely go further, unless specific questions are asked.

For those who deny their sinfulness, have not been changed in heart nor show evidence of being drawn to faith in Christ, by the powers of the Holy Spirit.

Without God regenerating the sinner and giving him a new heart and ears to hear, and indwelling him with the presence of the Holy Spirit (I Corinthians 2:9-16) he will only consider the rest of the gospel message to be foolishness; bringing more everlasting harm and punishment upon his soul.

Rather, from that point I simply give my witness as to how God saved me by His grace, and has enlightened my spiritual eyes through the study of the Holy Scriptures, assuring me of the promise of forgiveness and everlasting life in Christ's glory.

Assume that they admit to being a sinner.

They want to know, "How I can be saved? PLEASE help me!"

What do you tell them?

 

[Nang]

That is our position you evil pig. The red letter says tell no one that Jesus is the Christ. The red letter say the Pharisee sits in the seat of Moses and I am to do and observe whatever he tells me. NO!

I will not do it. It is not to me. What Paul wrote, which is from the risen Lord Jesus Christ, is for me.

You wretched fool.

:nono:

So be it . . .