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SaulToPaul 2

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" . . .it is a lie, that "the gospel of the kingdom," is equivalent to the gospel referenced in 1 Corinthians 15 KJV ff."

Who do you claim is King of the Heavenly Kingdom, other than Christ crucified?

No one.
What's the point?
 

john w

New member
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Johnny wrote in post #51:

" . . .it is a lie, that "the gospel of the kingdom," is equivalent to the gospel referenced in 1 Corinthians 15 KJV ff."

Who do you claim is King of the Heavenly Kingdom, other than Christ crucified?

Correct, Naggy. Show us where Peter and the 12 ever preached, prior to the death, burial, resurrection(1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV "gospel"), while they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom:
"The master is going to die for our sins...be buried...be raised again for our justification."

You cannot. Peter tried to prevent the master's death, and did not even believe that he had risen(initially), even after it happened. None of the 12 knew that He would die, until late in His ministry, and yet, they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom, prior to knowing.

I know that's quite deep...take a breath.

Judas preached "the gospel." Go on record, and try to say, with that smug face of yours, that Judas preached:

1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV "gospel"

Death
Burial
Resurrection

Go ahead.
 

Nang

TOL Subscriber
No one.
What's the point?

Point is, there is only one gospel, and it the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ came proclaiming the Kingdom of Heaven was at hand. Whose Kingdom is that? It is His Kingdom.

If you think Christ came proclaiming the Kingdom of David was at hand, then you preach a different gospel message than Jesus Christ.

There is direct correlation to Jesus preaching the Kingdom of Heaven and the gospel message in I Corinthians 15:1-4.

Same good news.

Johnny is wrong.
 

Nang

TOL Subscriber
Correct, Naggy. Show us where Peter and the 12 ever preached, prior to the death, burial, resurrection(1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV "gospel"), while they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom:
"The master is going to die for our sins...be buried...be raised again for our justification."

You cannot.

Jesus Christ was preaching all of the above, before His death.

Not good enough for you?
 

john w

New member
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Jesus Christ was preaching all of the above, before His death.

Not good enough for you?

Nope. The issue/argument-the gospel of the kingdom is not equivalent to 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.

The 12, including Judas, did preach the former.



Show us where Peter and the 12 ever preached, prior to the death, burial, resurrection(1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV "gospel"), while they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom:"The master is going to die for our sins...be buried...be raised again for our justification."

You cannot. Peter tried to prevent the master's death, and did not even believe that he had risen(initially), even after it happened. None of the 12 knew that He would die, until late in His ministry, and yet, they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom, prior to knowing.

I know that's quite deep...take a breath.

Judas preached "the gospel." Go on record, and try to say, with that smug face of yours, that Judas preached:

1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV "gospel"

Death
Burial
Resurrection

Go ahead.

Chapter, and verse.

I thought so...


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Nick M

Plymouth Colonist
LIFETIME MEMBER
Hall of Fame
How do you explain Michael Brown's body laying dead over 20 feet AWAY from the cop car that YOU claim he was shot point blank in?

Don't worry...I'll wait.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_e98a4ce0-c284-57c9-9882-3fb7df75fef6.html

The official autopsy on Michael Brown shows that he was shot in the hand at close range, according to an analysis of the findings by two experts not involved directly in the case....A source with knowledge of Wilson’s statements said the officer had told investigators that Brown had struggled for Wilson’s pistol inside a police SUV and that Wilson had fired the gun twice, hitting Brown once in the hand. Later, Wilson fired additional shots that killed Brown and ignited a national controversy.

The St. Louis medical examiner, Dr. Michael Graham, who is not part of the official investigation, reviewed the autopsy report for the newspaper. He said Tuesday that it “does support that there was a significant altercation at the car.”
 

Ktoyou

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
"The old testament is of no use to us. Other than being a tangent to distract people from the truth..... A real Christian knows the old testament is useless. The new testament tells us that. "-Squeaky Damien

It does have use for us, otherwise how do we know the this from that, unless we know that?

The OT provides us with and accountability, which we cannot raise to, only Jesus could live according to God, being He is.

The OT teaches us the way of sin and we see the bend in the road, as how would we know the road not taken if we do not see the righteous turn of events?

The OT gives insight into why MAD is the correct path for us, and why it is the road less chosen, as it would be contrary to assume the Jews are forever reprobate.

MAD is to two-way principle, and though this understanding we gain insight. We see how Covenant Theology may co-exist with dispensationalist for the Body of Christ.

So here we are, yes, you can live without it, yet knowing is preferable to not knowing, as those who know shall not be deceived.
 

john w

New member
Hall of Fame
It does have use for us, otherwise how do we know the this from that, unless we know that?

The OT provides us with and accountability, which we cannot raise to, only Jesus could live according to God, being He is.

The OT teaches us the way of sin and we see the bend in the road, as how would we know the road not taken if we do not see the righteous turn of events?

The OT gives insight into why MAD is the correct path for us, and why it is the road less chosen, as it would be contrary to assume the Jews are forever reprobate.

MAD is to two-way principle, and though this understanding we gain insight. We see how Covenant Theology may co-exist with dispensationalist for the Body of Christ.

So here we are, yes, you can live without it, yet knowing is preferable to not knowing, as those who know shall not be deceived.

You do "get" that Squeaky "argued" that "OT is of no use to us," not me, correct?
 

john w

New member
Hall of Fame
Lies...what a mess..

"Jesus never physically returned, and never will physically return to planet earth after He ascended to Heaven"-Preterist deceiver Tet.

Vs.

“And that is what happened. The Lord came in a way that everyone could see Him. However, He never touched planet earth, and when this event was over, He then sat on the throne in Heaven NOT on planet earth.”-Tet.

Ascended up physically, never returned physically in AD 70, just as some disembodied spirit, but everyone saw Him, even though he did not return physically in AD 70, and signs are invisible.

Wait:

"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD via the Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread

"Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."-stupid Craigie

"The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."-Gomer Tet.

Vs.

Hebrews 9:28 KJV
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Tet: The Roman army was looking for Him, this is the "them" above in Hebrews 9:28 KJV, the second time, the second coming, but "Jesus never physically returned," but "everyone" saw Him.


That's satan's habitual liar, Craigie.
 
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