toldailytopic: What is your chosen method for educating your children and why?

[zoo22]

Okay, so I was wrong about Einstein.

lain:



... Whoa.

:squint:

Is it bizarro day?

 

[Memento Mori]

Heh, speaking as a physics major, physicists tend to be really lazy when it comes to processing their math. And proofs annoy me to no end.

I think the proofs tend to vary from physicist to physicist. My HS Phys teacher (he had his doctorate) always showed the proof (whether through calc or algebra - depending on which class you took). But my college prof almost never proved the theorems. He was one of those, "ok and what else do you all think we have to account for?" teachers.

Trig and differentiable calculus are fun. Topology looks interesting, but I'm pretty much ignorant as to its applications. Integration makes me suicidal.

I took calc I and II in hs which was probably a bad choice because we squeezed those into two high school semesters without a good teacher. And it was terrible. I was thinking about retaking it in college without credit (since I actually already have credit.

 

[Thunder's Muse]

I send my children to Public School, where they can get an education to lead them in whatever direction they choose for their life and so they can learn to socialise with people from all walks of life.

 

[Yorzhik]

I send my children to Public School, where they can get an education to lead them in whatever direction they choose for their life and so they can learn to socialise with people from all walks of life.

As if homeschooling does not provide an education to lead them in whatever direction they choose for their life.

Are you thinking of the homo lifestyle perhaps?

 

[Alate_One]

TThat latter one sounds like me. But I never did the homework, only the work in class. I always got 100% on those, but I maintained a C because I never did any other work in many classes.

That's just laziness and irresponsibility.

No. Why?

You wouldn't be making moronic statements about how all math is simple and derives from arithmetic if you had taken calculus or other the sorts of advanced math that Berean mentioned.

They are run by the government and are only allowed to teach the government viewpoint.

:rotfl: where did you go to school? Soviet Russia? My public school wasn't anything like that . . . I had teachers from all sorts of backgrounds and viewpoints.

 

[nicholsmom]

Out of curiosity...

What kind of financial burden do ya'll who homeschool have to deal with?

I have known many well-meaning parents who would prefer to homeschool, based on their own experiences with public school, but can't because providing for the family requires both parents to work full-time.

God is my provider; He is my husband's provider and the provider for each of my children individually as well.

When I got pregnant with my first child, we decided that when I took off for maternity leave, I wouldn't be going back into the work force. I quit my engineering career to raise the kids even though we only had one at the time. It cut our income by 2/3. We arranged our lives so that whatever my husband could make would get us by. We did this because we were lead by God to do it, so He has blessed us abundantly. Now, six kids and 16.5 years later, my husband makes double what we made together when I worked as an engineer.

God is a great provider; He owns the cattle on a thousand hills (Ps 50:10)

 

[Thunder's Muse]

As if homeschooling does not provide an education to lead them in whatever direction they choose for their life.

Did I say that?

Wait...let me look....



Nope. I don't believe I did. I simply stated that I send my children to Public School (which in Australia, are of an excellent standard). Stop trying to make issue where there isn't any.

Are you thinking of the homo lifestyle perhaps?

I wouldn't know. I don't live a homosexual lifestyle.

 

[nicholsmom]

I couldn't disagree more.

My boys play competitive ice hockey so I get to interact with plenty of public school kids and I can tell you that our homeschooled children are far more adept at interacting with other people on a mature level.

Social skills are a skill (hence the name social skills) and social skills are something that should be taught like any other skill (math, reading, etc.). Public school kids don't learn social skills (there is no course for that). Instead they pick up social habits (usually bad habits) from the other kids that they hang around all day long and sadly act extremely immature and disrespectful.

We constantly get compliments about how friendly and respectful our children are. And it isn't as if they are nerds, far from it... they are excellent athletes who have competed at the highest levels of sports, have tons of friends, they even play in a punk rock band.

:BRAVO: and ditto - well, almost. My kids have other arenas than sports and punk rock bands for respect among their peers - they're not considered to be nerds by anyone.

 

[Lighthouse]

lain:



... Whoa.

:squint:

Is it bizarro day?

I can admit when I've been misinformed.

I send my children to Public School, where they can get an education to lead them in whatever direction they choose for their life and so they can learn to socialise with people from all walks of life.

They aren't going to learn to socialize with people of all ages, I can tell you that right now. And do you really want them to learn to socialize with people from all walks of life?

And public school isn't going to lead them to choose their own direction, it's going to lead them in one direction and one direction only.

That's just laziness and irresponsibility.

More apathy than anything. On the part of all involved, really: teachers, myself, my parents...

And in support of that argument I was tested in second grade for my abilities in the various subjects and I was reading & comprehending at an eleventh grade level. This was in my permanent record and I was never offered advanced placement.

You wouldn't be making moronic statements about how all math is simple and derives from arithmetic if you had taken calculus or other the sorts of advanced math that Berean mentioned.

Care to test that theory?

:rotfl: where did you go to school? Soviet Russia? My public school wasn't anything like that . . . I had teachers from all sorts of backgrounds and viewpoints.

So did I. But they weren't allowed to discuss certain things in the classroom, ever. None of my Christian teachers were ever allowed to talk about their beliefs. The only time they did was with the students who were also Christian and wouldn't rat them out for discussing it. And that was in what is usually a red state: IN.

 

[Thunder's Muse]

They aren;t going to learn to socialize with people of all ages, I can tell you that right now. And do you really want them to learn to socialize with people from all walks of life?

And public school isn't going to lead them to choose their own direction, it's going to lead them in one direction and one direction only.


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Well, they're my children, so it's not really any of your business, now is it?

I don't tell you how to raise your children...oh, wait. You don't have any.

 

[Lighthouse]

Well, they're my children, so it's not really any of your business, now is it?

I don't tell you how to raise your children...oh, wait. You don't have any.

:sherlock:

Nope, can't find it with the magnifying glass. Maybe if you show me where I told you how to raise your children I could see it?

$100 says you can't, though. And that would be because I didn't. I simply asked you a question. If the answer to that question is, "yes," then so be it. Expose your children to all those people: right-wingers, fundamentalist Christians, right-wing fundamentalist Christians, liberal Christians, evangelical Christians, charismatic Christians, right-wing fundamentalist evangelical Christians, homosexuals, psychopaths, mental patients, pedophiles, upstanding citizens, lazy people who think they deserve a handout, etc. That's your choice. I may not think you should expose them to every single type of person, but I can't stop you. I'll simply have to pray for you, and them.

 

[Thunder's Muse]

They aren't going to learn to socialize with people of all ages, I can tell you that right now. And do you really want them to learn to socialize with people from all walks of life?

And public school isn't going to lead them to choose their own direction, it's going to lead them in one direction and one direction only.

:sherlock:

Nope, can't find it with the magnifying glass. Maybe if you show me where I told you how to raise your children I could see it?

$100 says you can't, though. And that would be because I didn't. I simply asked you a question. If the answer to that question is, "yes," then so be it. Expose your children to all those people: right-wingers, fundamentalist Christians, right-wing fundamentalist Christians, liberal Christians, evangelical Christians, charismatic Christians, right-wing fundamentalist evangelical Christians, homosexuals, psychopaths, mental patients, pedophiles, upstanding citizens, lazy people who think they deserve a handout, etc. That's your choice. I may not think you should expose them to every single type of person, but I can't stop you. I'll simply have to pray for you, and them.

Actually, it sounded a lot like you telling me what's best for my children.

And as I said. It's none of your damn business.

I have yet to voice my opinion on homeschooling. So far, all I have said is that I send my children to Public School....in Australia. You know about the schools in the US but you don't have the foggiest idea what schools are like here...do you?

You may think that isolating your children is best for them. I don't. And since they are my children and I am raising them in a country you know nothing about, forgive me if I don't listen to a word you say on this matter.

 

[Lighthouse]

Actually, it sounded a lot like you telling me what's best for my children.

Really? Maybe you're tired.

And as I said. It's none of your damn business.

Fine, be a jerk about it.

I have yet to voice my opinion on homeschooling.

Relevance? I never even mentioned home schooling in this dialog.

So far, all I have said is that I send my children to Public School....in Australia. You know about the schools in the US but you don't have the foggiest idea what schools are like here...do you?

Are they government run?

You may think that isolating your children is best for them. I don't. And since they are my children and I am raising them in a country you know nothing about, forgive me if I don't listen to a word you say on this matter.

At what point did I tell you what you should do? And when did I ever say I wanted to isolate my children?

 

[Thunder's Muse]

Really? Maybe you're tired.

Yeah. I'm tired of you telling me what's best for my children.

Fine, be a jerk about it.

OK.

Relevance? I never even mentioned home schooling in this dialog.

Neither did I. I answered the OP and suddenly have people telling me I'm not doing the right thing by my children.

If your gonna do that, expect a strong response from me.

Are they government run?

Ah, yeah. Are you now going to tell me how our Government works or how they work out the curriculum?

At what point did I tell you what you should do? And when did I ever say I wanted to isolate my children?

Read your own posts again.

 

[Alate_One]

More apathy than anything. On the part of all involved, really: teachers, myself, my parents...

I was taught responsibility for getting my work done . . . .

And in support of that argument I was tested in second grade for my abilities in the various subjects and I was reading & comprehending at an eleventh grade level. This was in my permanent record and I was never offered advanced placement.

Ditto though that was in a Christian school. I didn't even get in their rather lame "gifted" program until just before I left for public school. At least the public schools had accelerated classes for me to take.

Care to test that theory?

You're the one that needs to take calculus . . . I did my time already

So did I. But they weren't allowed to discuss certain things in the classroom, ever. None of my Christian teachers were ever allowed to talk about their beliefs.

Do you think "other perspectives" ONLY applies to religious beliefs? :kookoo: My Christian teachers made it plain where they stood without actually coming out and saying what they believed, but frankly that's not necessarily the kind of diversity of viewpoints I'm talking about. Diversity of political cultural backgrounds etc.

Not like we didn't study the religious beliefs of the major belief systems in class anyway . . .

The only time they did was with the students who were also Christian and wouldn't rat them out for discussing it. And that was in what is usually a red state: IN.

I also went to school in Indiana, I vaguely recall some teachers being involved in extracurricular activities that were religious in nature. Of course I think its important for teachers to be careful about advocating their religious beliefs in school, especially when we're talking pre-high school. If you think I'm wrong about this, how would you feel about a teacher that constantly talked about his/her Islamic, Mormon or Hindu faith in front of younger children?

I'd imagine the first kid that came home saying "Mommy/Daddy I want to be a *insert opposing faith here* like teacher!" would put a stop to that pretty quick.

 

[Lighthouse]

Yeah. I'm tired of you telling me what's best for my children.

Seriously, you should take a nap or something. You are completely misreading my posts. And you're grumpy. Do you need your blankie or something?

OK.

I'm beginning to think you aren't qualified to raise children because you clearly haven't grown up yourself.

And before anyone trots out the pot/kettle cliche I recognize my own deficiency in the areas of maturity and readiness to raise children.

Neither did I. I answered the OP and suddenly have people telling me I'm not doing the right thing by my children.

If your gonna do that, expect a strong response from me.

Did I ever tell you you weren't doing the right thing by your children?

Ah, yeah. Are you now going to tell me how our Government works or how they work out the curriculum?

Did someone buy you a jump to conclusions mat for Christmas last year? Or was your birthday recent?

Read your own posts again.

I have. So, would you care to point it out? Or do you want to just admit you're looking for an argument and pay me my Benjamin? Oh, wait, you're Australian, what's the exchange rate?

 

[Lighthouse]

I was taught responsibility for getting my work done . . . .

And I wasn't. Like I said, no one seemed to care. And I was sick of having to prove I could do the work over and over.

Ditto though that was in a Christian school. I didn't even get in their rather lame "gifted" program until just before I left for public school. At least the public schools had accelerated classes for me to take.

Yeah, I was in a Christian school when those tests were done. But that was my last year in private school.

You're the one that needs to take calculus . . . I did my time already

The challenge was for you to give me some calculus problems so I could do them.

Do you think "other perspectives" ONLY applies to religious beliefs? :kookoo: My Christian teachers made it plain where they stood without actually coming out and saying what they believed, but frankly that's not necessarily the kind of diversity of viewpoints I'm talking about. Diversity of political cultural backgrounds etc.

The point I am making is that there is no "all viewpoints" in public schools.

Not like we didn't study the religious beliefs of the major belief systems in class anyway . . .

Really? What class was this? And did you study dispensationalism and open theism?

I also went to school in Indiana, I vaguely recall some teachers being involved in extracurricular activities that were religious in nature.

Yeah, either before the start of the school day or not on school property. That was the rule when I was in high school.

Of course I think its important for teachers to be careful about advocating their religious beliefs in school, especially when we're talking pre-high school. If you think I'm wrong about this, how would you feel about a teacher that constantly talked about his/her Islamic, Mormon or Hindu faith in front of younger children?

Well I believe public schools shouldn't exist, so...

But I will tell you that I will encourage my children to read all manner of religious texts.

I'd imagine the first kid that came home saying "Mommy/Daddy I want to be a *insert opposing faith here* like teacher!" would put a stop to that pretty quick.

See above.

 

[Thunder's Muse]

Seriously, you should take a nap or something. You are completely misreading my posts. And you're grumpy. Do you need your blankie or something?

This isn't the first conversation you and I have had about my children. Now, it has been quite a while since we did discuss my children and I hafta say...you annoyed me then and your annoying me now.

I'm beginning to think you aren't qualified to raise children because you clearly haven't grown up yourself.

Did I upset you LH? It's not immaturity. It's annoyance. Plain and simple.

And before anyone trots out the pot/kettle cliche I recognize my own deficiency in the areas of maturity and readiness to raise children.

So, why are you telling me how to educate my children?

Did I ever tell you you weren't doing the right thing by your children?

Well, it certainly felt that way. And after Yorzhik jumped in, I got a little ticked off.

Did someone buy you a jump to conclusions mat for Christmas last year? Or was your birthday recent?

Nope. As I said...if you are gonna get in my face about my kids, expect me to bite back.

I have. So, would you care to point it out? Or do you want to just admit you're looking for an argument and pay me my Benjamin? Oh, wait, you're Australian, what's the exchange rate?

Perhaps you should have just kept your opinions to yourself.

 

[Thunder's Muse]

*Takes a big, cleansing breath*

LH. Let's start this conversation again. I think we've known each other long enough.

I just want to say, first off... I did get a little emotional. But these are my children we are talking about....can you blame me for having such a passionate reaction? I love my children more than my own life, man....and I think you know that. It hurts when people think I'm not doing my best to raise them right....

So, that said. What exactly were you trying to say, LH?

 

[Arthur Brain]

I'm beginning to think you aren't qualified to raise children because you clearly haven't grown up yourself.

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*breaths*

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Ugh!

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