Silent Hunter
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I was sure that this topic would bring many replies and the reason I was and am content to eat my popcorn, read, and occasionally respond.
toldailytopic: What about abortion in cases of rape?
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Silent Hunter
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What part of my response to give the child up for adoption elicited this sort of extreme?
Well . . . it isn't.
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Because you love to place the rights and life of the mother above that of her child. Unborn or not, life is life.
lifeisgood
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"...of those who hate me" (Exodus 20:5).
Silent Hunter
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Rusha said, ". . . and is probably better off giving the child up for adoption if she is unable to get past the resentment she feels towards that child."
To which I replied, "If she decides to go to term with the pregnancy . . . sure."
What part of my reply in that exchange puts the life of the mother above that of the child?
Right.
Translation:
I have a hard time telling her not to murder the child of a rapist. I noticed you called it a baby. When does it become a baby? And what makes you think it is ok to execute a baby?
A mother should NEVER have the right to murder her child.
Silent Hunter
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Well, that's one of the many instances where the sons pay for the sins of their fathers . . .
It goes to your objection to punish the child, an innocent, for doing nothing wrong.
Right.
Silent Hunter
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. . . agreed. Our disagreement is WHEN does this go into effect.
Right.
As a woman this is a very touchy subject for me. When I was a teenager I felt that if I were raped I would have to kill myself because I would be damaged beyond repair. Often, females who are raped are functionally destroyed. I'm thankful that such a thing didn't happen to me.
Each of my five children were intensely precious to me the minute I first felt the flutterings of life. Each time I felt slightly insulated from the rest of the world, me and my growing child were a private unity.
I don't know how I would have felt had I become pregnant by an act of violence and aggression?
Right.
oldhermit
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The point that needs to be uderstood in this text is that it is God, not man who is doing the punishing. How could anyone possibly attempt to manipulate this text to justify the murder of an unborn child?
Yep ... only nine months ... and no, she isn't *raising* her child. She is physically allowing the child to live until the child can survive without her. The raising doesn't begin until the child is born, and at that time she can decide if she wants the responsibility of raising the child or allowing another responsible person to be gifted with the honor.
Well ... I am not a Christian, and do not believe with any such standard as you noted above. My view is that we are all responsible for our own actions ... which ties in very well with cases of rape and abortion.
The rapist is responsible for his sexual assault towards the mother. As you know, I do not take this lightly and feel that rape should be a capital offense.
The mother is responsible for the life and welfare of her unborn baby in the same way she would be if she was accidentally impregnated by her spouse or significant other.
Life is not perfect and traumatic and bad things happen to good, decent people. No woman EVER deserves to be raped and no child (born or unborn) ever deserves to be intentionally killed.
It is entirely possible to support the mother and offer support after her rape, during her pregnancy and AFTER her pregnancy.
Exactly. And, IMO, it should also be a capital offense for those mothers who participate in the murder of their children and the doctors who assist them.
Silent Hunter
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It is my opinion that if your deity allows a "punishment" to proceed then your deity is de facto approving of the punishment, thus, doing the punishing.
I'm not. You see, we disagree on WHEN the unborn becomes a child (person).