Junius Gallio
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The same way I do--by refusing to take a conspiracist view of the polls.
toldailytopic: The election is finally upon us. What do you think will be the outcome
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The same way I do--by refusing to take a conspiracist view of the polls.
That's not the polling data and trend I've been seeing. Either way we're getting essentially more of the same, though with Romney we'll see a serious stab at undoing healthcare provisions. I don't count that as a win for anyone unless the Republicants can become a party of workable ideas after four years of essentially naysaying for political gain.
Here's a Huffington Post piece about polling data.
By way of isolating on data from one swing state, Ohio, the polling all shows Obama ahead. He only needs Ohio and a couple of others, by projection, to reach the magic number.
Junius Gallio
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Ugh. TH, I do not trust HuffPo--they're the liberal equivalent of FoxNews, and are (imho) too biased to be trustworthy.
Yup. If Obama takes Ohio and Wisconsin (both of which appear to be solidly in the bag for him), then by CNN projections he only needs five more electoral votes. RealClearPolitics places the election solidly in his hands (on their "No toss ups" map).
The folks talking about a "Romney landslide" are talking through their hat.
There is that thing with Carter and Reagan, but Carter was not ahead of Reagan in the polls as Obama is. Still, if the vote shifts as much in this election, Romney could win.
I don't think so, but no one really knows.
I don't think so, but no one really knows.
Then I don't think you looked at the link, since it cited to polling data not created by HP. I don't let anyone process information for me, but I don't ignore information that can be independently confirmed either. It's a good jumping off point. And it seems in line (especially the model created by Stanford' Simon Jackman) with the New York Times model.
One of the points made in the article, if memory serves. I think a lot of people are invested in drama and that it serves everyone to keep this thing feeling like a piano wire, but I don't believe it is or will turn out that way.
Four years ago that would have made me happy. Today I'm just curious.
Zeal brings hope and the two together, fanned by talking point friendly media outlets, can generate a great deal of smoke without much real heat.
Junius Gallio
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I don't distrust the citations, I distrust the interpretation and the omissions. Same as for Fox and MSNBC. Huffpo is biased--but they're not downright dishonest like WND or Newsmax.
Cool beans, as the kids say...they do say that, don't they? :think:
Junius Gallio
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If the kids nowadays are saying it, then it's back. That first came around in the 60s. :chuckle:
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I asked Jack if he was interested in saying it...
exminister
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http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
Click on the ruling to see all of Obama's statements for that ruling.
True 99 (22%)
Mostly True 106 (23%)
Half True 121 (27%)
Mostly False 56 (12%)
False 63 (14%)
Pants on Fire 7 (2%)
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
True 30 (15%)
Mostly True 32 (16%)
Half True 56 (28%)
Mostly False 33 (16%)
False 32 (16%)
Pants on Fire 19 (9%)
How do you tell if a politician is lying?
Not sure if you were comparing Obama to Romney, but Romney is the bigger liar. You know Romney changes with the wind, that is why his base has been so unsure about him.
exminister
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Somebody should have told Gore he was a democrat.
exminister
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In those states I think it might be easier to vote third party.
LKmommy
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will let you know next week.....
Are there states that don't have any lesser parties on the ballot?
In Indiana the Libertarian party was the only 3rd party on the ballot, which is a change from years past if i remember correctly.
:nono: Florida
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This Charming Manc
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I think after all the votes are counted the queen will still be the queen.
*mutters about revolution and starts sharpening knives*
*mutters about revolution and starts sharpening knives*
Does she hang out with Jay Z? :think:
"I'm predicting Obama will take an early lead tomorrow… Until all the Republicans get off work." :doh: ~ Tim Tebow