toldailytopic: Safety or freedom: which do you value more?
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Considering al-Quida believes in left wing national socialism, as does the Taliban, how does that change or affect the topic? If you lose freedom, they get closer to what they want.
Zeke
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I wouldn't disagree with the first part, the rest is wishfull thinking. This goverment is no longer out to protect this right. Those who really have the guts to buck this system find themselves either in prision, or room temp.
Freedom, hands down. Now somebody get on that Franklin quote so we have it out of the way.
"I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that "except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall be become a reproach and a bye word down to future age. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human Wisdom, and leave it to chance, war, and conquest.
I therefore beg leave to move -- that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that service."
Oh, you mean the quote that goes something like this: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”.
I'll go with the safety that is found in God's laws and the freedom that is found in Christ.
And "Dyin ain't much of a livin, boy...":think:
Yer either Quick 'er yer dead...
"I even thought I was dead 'til I found out it was just that I was in Nebraska."
PyramidHead
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genuineoriginal
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The second amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
If firearms are necessary to the security of freedom, why do they have safeties?
StrivesWithGod
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I count my life as nothing.
I am also, however, not free.
So I think a funny video is in order.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vi...ny+ball+video&FROM=LKVR5>1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR4
I am also, however, not free.
So I think a funny video is in order.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vi...ny+ball+video&FROM=LKVR5>1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR4
the purpose of government is to protect our freedom
They do because said totalitarian regimes make up the numbers that say so. When said totalitarian regime falls, the reality may come out as it did in the (former) USSR.
Freedom.
Taken totally out of context from the Bible, " ... and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it."
Taken totally out of context from the Bible, " ... and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it."
Well, not exactly. Since totalitarian governments often punish crimes disproportionate to their level of offense, and since they by nature control the population to a greater degree than other forms of government, violent crime rates do tend to genuinely be quite low. That's the trade off: "safety" for sure, but at a rather ridiculous price.
Freedom is founded in right. Protect your right to speech and the freedom follows, so to speak.
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what about our freedom to watch FOX news?
A man is free to believe anything...and Fox news is living proof that many take that notion and run with it.
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