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Granite

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:sigh: For a moment there, I thought I spied detente.

I've read your posts.

Well, then, again: you missed my point. I'll say it again: to dwell, consistently, and repeatedly, on behavior that one claims to find disgusting, or sinful, speaks to an unhealthy and repressed mind. Many Christians here (OEJ's original post that prompted my comment is a case in point) seem to enjoy wallowing in downright pornographic scenarios that they excuse as "worst case" or "calls for alarm," which seems disingenuous to me. I see this all the time, on TOL and elsewhere: moral alarmists who seem awfully eager to describe, in prurient detail, behavior and activities they claim to despise. I guess it's not smut if you claim to be doing this "for the children" or in the name of "morality.":rolleyes:
 

IMJerusha

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Well, then, again: you missed my point. I'll say it again: to dwell, consistently, and repeatedly, on behavior that one claims to find disgusting, or sinful, speaks to an unhealthy and repressed mind. Many Christians here (OEJ's original post that prompted my comment is a case in point) seem to enjoy wallowing in downright pornographic scenarios that they excuse as "worst case" or "calls for alarm," which seems disingenuous to me. I see this all the time, on TOL and elsewhere: moral alarmists who seem awfully eager to describe, in prurient detail, behavior and activities they claim to despise. I guess it's not smut if you claim to be doing this "for the children" or in the name of "morality.":rolleyes:

Actually, I don't believe I missed any of your points and I addressed each one of your posts as you made them. The problem, Granite, is not that you won't see our POV but rather that you can not see it because you can't see your baseline...God. Because of that, you are really not in a position to assess our actions or motives. You're not thinking on the same plane as we are. Not to say that you're below us or that we are above you. We're just coming from different places.
 

Granite

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Actually, I don't believe I missed any of your points and I addressed each one of your posts as you made them. The problem, Granite, is not that you won't see our POV but rather that you can not see it because you can't see your baseline...God.

Passive aggressive arrogance is still arrogance.

Because of that, you are really not in a position to assess our actions or motives.

See above.

You're not thinking on the same plane as we are. Not to say that you're below us or that we are above you. We're just coming from different places.

Right, right. I am not worthy.

I invite you to take your presumption and find a good place to stick it.:rolleyes:
 

IMJerusha

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Passive aggressive arrogance is still arrogance.

You confuse arrogance with fruit of the Spirit.

Right, right. I am not worthy.

Those are your words, not mine. I would never say that you are unworthy. You're every bit as worthy as I am in my estimation but more importantly, in God's.

I invite you to take your presumption and find a good place to stick it.:rolleyes:

LOL I would if I'd made one, but I didn't.
 

Granite

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You confuse arrogance with fruit of the Spirit.



Those are your words, not mine. I would never say that you are unworthy. You're every bit as worthy as I am in my estimation but more importantly, in God's.



LOL I would if I'd made one, but I didn't.

You confuse arrogance with faux humility. And I'm sick to death of that particular shtick. If there's "fruit" to be had here it's rotten to the core.

If you think it's impossible for me to discern what you're thinking or feeling, do me a real favor and don't respond to my posts.
 

IMJerusha

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You confuse arrogance with faux humility. And I'm sick to death of that particular shtick. If there's "fruit" to be had here it's rotten to the core.

I didn't have arrogance in mind at all so I really couldn't confuse it with anything. Me thinks you protest too much. If you weren't attracted by what is here, you wouldn't be here.

If you think it's impossible for me to discern what you're thinking or feeling, do me a real favor and don't respond to my posts.

As you wish. At least, in this thread. BTW, discernment is a Spiritual gift and one you are not capable of at this time. Hopefully, another time.
 

Granite

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I didn't have arrogance in mind at all so I really couldn't confuse it with anything.

You people usually don't. That doesn't stop you from being Pharisees. Never has, never will.

Me thinks you protest too much. If you weren't attracted by what is here, you wouldn't be here.

What are you, a full time or part time egomaniac? I'm not here because of you, brainless.

Stuff your arrogance and get a clue.
 

PureX

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I have to disagree. If prostitutes willingly join the profession--at a brothel in Nevada, as a call girl--and are free to leave the profession at any point, it's hard for me to see how they're being exploited.
Would you want to see you daughter doing it? Or your wife?
 

Angel4Truth

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I have to disagree. If prostitutes willingly join the profession--at a brothel in Nevada, as a call girl--and are free to leave the profession at any point, it's hard for me to see how they're being exploited.

Because we all know nearly all of them do it willingly all over the world....and no one would lie that its willing to keep their pimp or slavemaster from hurting them...
 

resurrected

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If a child willingly enters into a sexual relationship with an adult and can leave at any point, explain how they are molested?
 

bybee

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If a child willingly enters into a sexual relationship with an adult and can leave at any point, explain how they are molested?


A child is not capable of that kind of consent. We know that.
It is too heinous to contemplate this type of abuse.
Our job as individuals and as a society is to protect the innocent, the vulnerable and the handicapped.
 

Angel4Truth

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A child is not capable of that kind of consent. We know that.
It is too heinous to contemplate this type of abuse.
Our job as individuals and as a society is to protect the innocent, the vulnerable and the handicapped.

I think that was his point - a great many and i would even venture most prostitutes arent doing it willingly, even when some of them say they are.
 

resurrected

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A child is not capable of that kind of consent.

I realize that this is a sticking point for many in this type of discussion.

Can you explain what you mean by "that kind" of consent?

What "kind" is it that the government has claimed responsibility for over parental control?
 

bybee

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I realize that this is a sticking point for many in this type of discussion.

Can you explain what you mean by "that kind" of consent?

What "kind" is it that the government has claimed responsibility for over parental control?

The government has power of decision over what is taught to our children in the public schools and what is legally accepted behavior in society.
We, as parents and concerned citizens can only marshall our own behavior in the family and in society to reflect our standards and beliefs.
Regarding "that kind" of consent, I mean a child is under his/her parents governance. They decide what is proper behavior for the child. A child must be protected from the depredations of adult predators. That protection comes from family, school, concerned citizens and the law of the land. All of which can become a "catch 22" if the parents are the abusers and if the law of the land doesn't protect children. Then, like Sodom and Gomorrah, we will be destroyed.
 
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