What, do you think the average adult consumer who's drinking a litre of 'Pepsi' or whatever doesn't already know it's a sugary drink? That it's not going to do their health any benefits?
According to wiki answers, there are 200 calories in a 16 oz. coca cola. I think that there are roughly as many calories in a small bag of chewy sprees (a fruit flavored candy). I believe that the nutritional content in both is pretty much the same. They're both worthless.
But who, do you think, is more likely to eat something soon afterwards? If you eat the bag of candy, there's a greater psychological/physiological inclination to abstain from more food afterwards. Why? Because you just ate.
The same does not hold true of a soda. Why should you abstain from eating something after you drink that coke? You drank something. You didn't eat something.
Of course, the actual nutritional intake is pretty much the same. But there's a difference in how the two items affect you psychologically/physiologically.
You're just playing around with semantics here. It's not against the law to buy 16 apple turnovers in a supermarket which if such were one's sole or main diet would result in health problems even if there were some nutritional value.
See above. How likely is it that you will eat lunch and then 2 apple turnovers? How likely is it that you will eat lunch and, over the course of eating lunch, drink 2 large sodas?
Again, how likely is it that you'll eat an apple turnover every day?
How likely is it that you'll drink a soda every day?
How likely is it that you'll eat more than one apple turnover every day?
How likely is it that you'll drink more than one soda every day?
Which is ludicrous frankly. Are they going to forbid buying 2 or more 8oz bottles/cups in one purchase? It would cost more no doubt but hey....more revenue....
Presumably, more people will simply switch to diet soda.
Dude, what you chose to eat and drink is none of my concern as what I chose to consume is no business of yours in return.
I've given a lengthy argument in answer to LightBringer, in particular, citing both Aristotle and Aquinas to the contrary. This argument revolved around two things: 1. the idea that man is at the same time both a whole and a part and 2. the idea that our actions have public implications.
I gave 4 ways in which these actions have public implications. You've only addressed one of them.
And even if you addressed all of them, so what? The more fundamental point remains: man isn't an atomistic whole. He is a part to the whole which is the political order.
If I knew someone who had such an unhealthy diet to the point it was affecting their health to an adverse point then sure, I'd make mention of it, but as a general whole you've nothing but garbled ramblings about 'work productivity' et al which could be applied to a myriad other things on that basis. I happen to value personal choice in these matters.
This. You only mentioned one of the points I made. I made four of them. I'll expound them here:
1. National defense. Consider the following: World War III breaks out. The US doesn't have enough people in the military. They need to break out the draft. Half of the nation, let's say, is obese. Of those who are not obese, half of them are too old or are disqualified from service for other reasons. The future isn't looking too bright for America, is it?
2. Obesity causes lots and lots of expensive health problems. That guy who's been saying "It's my business, not yours, what I eat" for 50 years is now making it someone else's business. In fact, lots of other peoples' business. He needs a doctor to treat him. He needs a pharmacist to dole out prescriptions. He needs the help of his family, perhaps, which he otherwise would not have needed. He needs his insurance to pay for things which otherwise they would not have needed to pay for.
You get the idea.
3. Work productivity. Fat, unhealthy, out of shape people don't like to move much. Nuff said.
4. It changes the kind of political order.
Say "it's my business, not yours" all you want. When that guy walks out of his house, I have to look at him when he's riding around on a scooter in Wal-Mart.
Say "it's my business, not yours" all you want. Since so many fat women say that, there are fewer attractive women to pursue.
Say "it's my business, not yours" all you want. But I have to be uncomfortable when some obese person sits next to me in a movie theater or on an airplane, and his buttcheek takes up half my seat.
Let the obese person say "it's my business, not yours" all you want. But he wants to join me on an elevator. He wants to walk too slowly down an aisle or on a sidewalk, and his size won't let me pass.
"His business, not mine?" It is my business. If I have to deal with him, then it's my business.
They'd have a hard job getting it passed. If you were to do away with chocolate for example do you think people would just sit back and say "Oh well, that's what the rulers say so fair enough"? Seriously Trad, if folk like you were in power the emigration rate would be through the roof....
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When I choose to have a drink, eat a black forest gateaux, drink a soda etc in the privacy of my own home, it's got sod all to do with you or anyone else, no matter how many times I indulge in such during a week/month or whichever else time frame.
When you say "gateaux," do you mean cake? If so, I think it should be "gateau." The "x" indicates a plural. In any case, addressed above.
Laws are already in place to regulate/legislate against substance abuse/public disorder through intoxication etc as it is. I've no problem with laws prohibiting smoking in public places by way of example.
So what's your problem? It's not as though you're arguing for a complete libertarianism. Even you admit that the state can ban things which affect public health.