toldailytopic: Jehovah's Witnesses. What did they get wrong? What did they get right?

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JWs have organization, zeal, dedication, desire to be separate from the world, etc.

They are fatally wrong on doctrine (deny Trinity, Deity, physical resurrection of Christ, sectarian New World Translation, etc.) and practices such as no voting, no holidays, no blood transfusions, extreme disfellowshipping, etc.

The bad far outweighs the good. :noid:

http://www.amazon.com/Reasoning-Scr...sses-Rhodes/dp/0736924515/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

(I am reading this at the moment and it is very good...click look inside for contents).

http://www.freeminds.org/ (former JW)

http://www.ronrhodes.org/ (never been JW so not 'apostate' in their eyes)

http://www.bible.ca/jw-questions.htm
 
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They have annual assemblies in larger centers and smaller gatherings less often. They have regular meetings and expect commitment and are trained weekly to actively promote their beliefs with countless hours of door-to-door. This gives a sense of unity (which is actually uniformity) and purpose and belonging.

Negatively, they cannot question the organization and are essentially robotic slaves to an evil organization (works religion based on fear).
 
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keypurr said:
They are just another church that doesn't get truth. Like GR'S.
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I attend a biblical church, while they are one of the largest pseudo-Christian cults in existence. They break up families, ruin lives, condemn people to hell. Your beliefs are most close to their beliefs (Arian).
 
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andyc said:
JWs are wrong about everything.
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They are right about monotheism, but wrong about who and what God is. They are right in some areas of eschatology, but fundamentally wrong on essential, salvific issues.
 
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Knight said:

toldailytopic: Jehovah's Witnesses. What did they get wrong? What did they get right?

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Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses is buried 5 minutes from my house HERE

Right next to the grave of Russell is the Greater Pittsburgh Masonic Temple.

HERE is a picture of Russell's grave with the Masonic Temple in the background.

Coincidence?
 
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godrulz said:
They are right about monotheism, but wrong about who and what God is. They are right in some areas of eschatology, but fundamentally wrong on essential, salvific issues.
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A little leaven leavens the whole lump
 
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Same as the Catholics and Mormons: thinking they are the single authority to interpret the bible for us. Cult of Rome, cult of Salt Lake City, cult of the Watchtower - it's all the same game.
 
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A little leaven leavens the whole lump
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A drop of poison in pure water can be fatal.

There is little to commend about the JW organization, but they are not wrong about everything. They are wrong about everything that really matters.

You make the mistake of negating fellow Christians' salvation over peripheral issues. Many biblical believers who disagree with you get lumped into the same boat as JWs in your mind. This is wrong and unreasonable.

JWs are wrong on essentials, but debates such as Calvinism, Open Theism, Arminianism, Exchanged Life, eschatology, spiritual gifts, dispensationalism, styles of worship or church government, etc. are simply not salvific issues (don't turn pet ideas into a sect/cult or test of salvation/orthodoxy if they really are not).
 
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Lighthouse said:
I don't have any idea what they got right.
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They are right that God exists, but they are wrong about who He is and what He is like. They are dead wrong about the person and work of Jesus (the reason they are cultists, not Christian).
 
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Krsto said:
So why do you?
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As a Pentecostal, Open Theist, Moral Government, etc. believer, I differ from many other true Christians on peripheral issues. I do not make these distinctives essential or salvific issues.

Essential truths like the existence of God, Deity and resurretion of Christ, salvation by grace through faith alone, Bible as the Word of God, etc. are held in common with all true Christians. Those who deny these essential/salvific/minimal beliefs are outside of biblical, historical, orthodox Christianity.

Diametrically opposed, mutually exclusive beliefs are not equally valid/true (Jude 3; Gal. 1:6-10; 2 Cor. 11:4; Rom. 1:16; Jn. 14:6). Inclusivism, relativism, etc. are damnable and heretical.
 
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