And you continue to make absolutely no sense. When you bake pot into brownies you're not supposed to eat a whole brownie.
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Charity
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Grow Up Lighthouse..told you before! an ILL TELL YOU AGAIN, i HAVE never Had POT! Mr visious!
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An your country's about to change...
Tell me How Much you Know about this?
I know more than you think I know.....
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nO WONDER oBama is riping you all off? an no one will be interesting in helping in the end...such rudness
your President is call OBAMA, thats not traditional. funderlise that for me smart mouth.
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Well, the media obviously believes Islam encourages terrorism with all their talk about how the Tsarnaev brothers became "radicalized" in their faith. For once, I agree with the media.
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I'm aware that exact chronology of the ayat don't appear to be pinned down very well.
However, it appears to be that the first 29 ayat in sura 9 are the last if not among the very last revealed.
Pardon. I meant 9:5, no 6. :doh:
As far as abrogation and these verses, if there is such a thing, these verses would abrogate chronologically earlier verses that contradict them.
First - do you have a link for the the context you are referring to?
Second, the verse as it sits in the quran doesn't have a limitation as to a single instance war versus the polytheists.
Does not the quran supersede the hadiths in authority?
If it does (and I am presuming it does), than how does one determine if any hadith can validly add to, subtract from, or modify any part of the quranic text?
2- What would you say if I told you that Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim aren't fully right source to go to for me and other 350 million shia muslim (and God knows how much Sunni).
I wouldn't find it surprising. Even those of us in the west who know better than to consider the islamic world as a monolith have a hard time sorting out factions amongst those who claim islam as their worldview.
It must be just as confusing for those from the islamic world trying to sort out factions among those who claim to be christians.
Quick question - are there any collections of hadith that all of those who claim the name of muslim would say are authoritative?
If not, would you mind listing out the top hadiths for the major branches?
And feel free to correct me if I get my terminology screwed up.
My understanding is that Islam is a tolerant religion until the peace, happiness and decency of its adherent communities are compromised, then they think of self-defense, if not effective counter-offense, with the backing of Allah (God). So I don't think much of their 'toughness' goes without godly approval.
But how does any religious group persuade the most compromised of its adherents not to 'go over to the darkside', especially in a war zone.
I don't think the Imams are either pro- or anti- restorative violence.
I think they support individual Muslims in following their individual consciences with hearts cleansed by God but, as we all known, making our hearts pure, and keeping them that way, needs to be a lifelong concern.
I think the Muslim leadership could be speaking up more about anti-Islamic behaviour,
but why should they do this whilst the enemies of Syria (etc.) are refusing to speak up against unfettered culture-destroying and chaos-provoking decadence and also against unfettered counterproductive jingoism?
But how does any religious group persuade the most compromised of its adherents not to 'go over to the darkside', especially in a war zone.
I don't think the Imams are either pro- or anti- restorative violence.
I think they support individual Muslims in following their individual consciences with hearts cleansed by God but, as we all known, making our hearts pure, and keeping them that way, needs to be a lifelong concern.
I think the Muslim leadership could be speaking up more about anti-Islamic behaviour,
but why should they do this whilst the enemies of Syria (etc.) are refusing to speak up against unfettered culture-destroying and chaos-provoking decadence and also against unfettered counterproductive jingoism?
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Anti-islamic behavior????
They back up their behavior with Islamic holy writ.
How is that anit-islamic?
All 'religions' / 'ideology clubs' back up their policy-making
with some kind of scripture,
but some members understand their scripture better than others.
And some religions deal with their hypocrites, but others don't.
Good religions deal with their hypocrites; bad ones don't.
Reasonable aggression in defense for self or others is reasonable;
going 'over the top' is not, and it's the hypocrites who go 'over the top'.
Christianity has a bad reputation in some quarters because it doesn't deal with it's hypocrites.
Islam also doesn't deal with its hypocrites very well,
but this doesn't matter much away from war zones
because Islam tends to go hand-in-hand with a culture of uniformity/conformity.
In war zones, however, where hypocrisy is tempting, this uniformity/conformity
can and does cause big problems.
Vocal Atheists, with the help of their leader Richard Dawkins,
attack Christianity a lot more than they attack Islam
because they see Islam as less of a threat (not because they're scared of Fatwas).
Personally, I'm a lot more worried about bad Christians than I am about bad Muslims.
Anyone can call themselves a Christian, and when they behave in unChristian ways,
they're ignored, tolerated, prayed for or invited to pray.
Christian Libertarianism can easily degenerate into debauchery.
Muslim Disciplinarianism is actually anti- any kind of degeneration.
Do you still not understand that the real enemy is hypocrisy?